Bard says the Bambu X1c swaps filaments faster than Prusa XL  

RE: Bard says the Bambu X1c swaps filaments faster than Prusa XL

I'll never fully understand folk's compulsion to recruit as many people as possible to validate a decision they've made, especially one as ultimately unimportant as which 3d printer they have decided (not) to buy.  I do feel for David and his very frustrating and costly experience, as there seems to be some kind of psychological road block standing in the way of him letting go and quietly moving on with a different product.  The jest above about the bounty checks gave me a chuckle, but it does seem that of those who feel they have been let down by Prusa in the last couple years, many have turned so aggressively against the company that it seems they would celebrate it's failure.  This seems silly to me as I believe most people (not just on this forum) would have to agree that the industry would be quite negatively impacted if Prusa were absent from it.  Something is clearly causing people to take hard sides on the matter, though.  Even users who are getting great results out of the XL, lauding it as a printer that is providing them a level of quality, material efficiency, and utility beyond anything else currently available, won't let an opportunity pass without remarking about the "clueless people being led by a clueless leader" on this forum.  As a fairly new 3d printing hobbyist, I'm really thankful to the many forum users here who are willing to offer level headed, untainted help to each other here, despite vastly differing experience levels and investments in the hobby.  Also to the 'few' youtube folks who are comfortable acknowledging the challenges while collaborating toward solutions rather than stopping at every chance to take a petty dig at one side or the other.  Robert Cowan comes to mind as a great example someone willing to simply educate without pettiness.  

Whether or not my own printer continues to meet my needs long into the future, I expect Prusa will be fine.  I suspect many of the CQ and CS issues that folks are having is a direct reflection of the demand for Prusa products and their struggle to meet that demand.  If demand drops off because some of those on the fence decide to go elsewhere, I believe they'll still be turning a profit and will retain their customers who appreciate the attempt to adhere to a more open core philosophy.  

I genuinely hope David can find whatever peace he's looking for on this matter.

-J

RE: Bard says the Bambu X1c swaps filaments faster than Prusa XL

Well stated. People have different needs and different tastes / uses. As well ups and downs with experiences. Hopefully everyone finds what they are looking for and get what they need in the end. Share the knowledge and keep printing!

RE: Bard says the Bambu X1c swaps filaments faster than Prusa XL

Prusa XL,, 5 tool head is way faster when it comes multicolor printing vs a Bambu printer. That data is based on slicer information. 

RE: Bard says the Bambu X1c swaps filaments faster than Prusa XL

I have both an X1C and an XL 5 head and Bards claims are ridiculous.  The XL swaps in a couple seconds, not to mention how much filament the X1C wastes.  
Now there is a use case for the X1C to be sure.  It's a fantastic printer.  But you simply cannot compare the two.  

Posted by: @seattledavid

Bard claims that the Bambu X1c swaps filaments faster than Prusa XL. Is this true? Here is the statement Bard made:

The Bambu Lab X1C AMS and Prusa XL are both excellent 3D printers with their own strengths and weaknesses. When it comes to filament swapping, the Bambu Lab X1C AMS has a clear advantage. It can swap filaments in around 30 seconds, while the Prusa XL's tool changer takes around 45 seconds. This is because the X1C AMS uses a filament buffer system that keeps a constant supply of filament ready for the printer, while the Prusa XL's tool changer has to physically move each toolhead in and out of position.

Here is a table that summarizes the filament swapping times for the two printers:

As you can see, the Bambu Lab X1C AMS is significantly faster at swapping filaments than the Prusa XL. This can be a major advantage for prints that require multiple filament colors or materials.

In addition to being faster, the Bambu Lab X1C AMS is also more versatile than the Prusa XL's tool changer. It can handle up to 16 different filaments, while the Prusa XL's tool changer can only handle up to five. This means that the X1C AMS can be used to print a wider variety of objects.

Overall, the Bambu Lab X1C AMS is the clear winner when it comes to filament swapping. It is faster, more versatile,and can handle more filaments than the Prusa XL's tool changer. If you are looking for a printer that can handle a wide variety of prints, then the Bambu Lab X1C AMS is a great option.

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The quality of AI content scales with the popularity of the topic and how much material is out there on the topic asked. The more obscure it gets the worse the quality and accuracy. The Prusa XL is a pretty obscure topic in the larger picture. 

I wonder why someone would not simply verify that Bard fairy tale by loading a multicolour print file into compatible slicers and slice with standard profiles for each, the XL and the Bambulab X1c. At least Prusaslicer is pretty accurate as far as printing times go. 

There are also youtube videos out there showing you tool changes life in action. Take the time yourself if you like. 45sec is absolutely ridiculous. I could imagine that data about MMU and XL were mixed and mashed up in that AI response, or the time stated was simply halucinated straight away. 

RE: Bard says the Bambu X1c swaps filaments faster than Prusa XL

As a rule of thumb, if you struggle finding much information on Google and/or reddit on the matter, chances are that AI will respond with random nonsense as well. Nicely written and credible looking random nonsense that is, but nonsense nonetheless.