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OZ1BMO
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Does my calibration system not work?

This is a picture of 75 x 75 first layer print, and it shows a different height, maybe because the bed is inaccurate..my question is: Shouldn't Prusa's bed leveling system compensate for that...? 

Prusa MK3S+ 

 

Posted : 11/02/2021 4:50 pm
bobstro
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RE: Does my calibration system not work?

Mesh bed leveling can compensate for most deviations, but there's still a range of values that work. Be sure you've got 7x7 mesh bed leveling enabled as it tests at more points. The trick is to find a setting that works in those edge cases. In your case, I'd lower (make more negative) Live-Z by between 0.04 and 0.06mm and see if everything evens up. 

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Posted : 11/02/2021 5:57 pm
OZ1BMO
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RE: Does my calibration system not work?

Thanks for your advice, Bobstro, you have a point... I'll try that out and give it a chance

Posted : 11/02/2021 7:37 pm
hli
 hli
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RE: Does my calibration system not work?

You can also look at the bed level correction (see https://help.prusa3d.com/en/article/bed-level-correction_2267 ) when you see difference between front / rear or left / right.

Posted : 11/02/2021 8:59 pm
OZ1BMO
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RE: Does my calibration system not work?

@hli

Thanks, hli, interesting article, I’ll try that out, and if that doesn’t work maybe I’ll do the nylock mod....

Posted : 12/02/2021 7:05 am
This_Dude_Jay
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RE: Does my calibration system not work?

Hey oz1bmo,

interesting that you expericence that with the new SuperPINDA. Maybe this here is also interesting for you to read:

https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk3s-mk3-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/an-empirical-insight-into-a-major-flaw-of-pinda-v2-bed-level-probing-and-why-7x7-makes-things-even-worse/

Part 3 explains what might be going wrong. Post 2 is not needed to read, just for interest in there.

From my point of view, 7x7 grid is definitely not usable, unless you Probe with 45°C-50°C PINDA temp. SuperPINDA is supposed to fix this, but I'm not so sure about this lately.

Cheers

Posted : 14/02/2021 4:29 pm
This_Dude_Jay
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RE: Does my calibration system not work?

Nylock mod doesn't improve things btw, as PINDA measures also the adjusted bed incorrectly and values drift off. This mod only helps flattening the bed, so the bottom of your parts come out flat and even. As you say, PINDA should actually compensate for anything bed related, but reality looks different

Posted : 14/02/2021 4:36 pm
OZ1BMO
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RE: Does my calibration system not work?

@this_dude_jay

Hi Jay

Thanks for your very informative article, which unfortunately, gives me the thought that the Superpinda isn’t the improvement I have hoped for. 
My MK3S+ has a bed measure inaccuracy on 0,8mm from side to side with normal bed setup, which is not enough for bed leveling to handle, even after bed level correction....

The best I could do was to do the Nylock mode, and after that the bed measure inaccuracy is 0,02mm from side to side and front/back...

Now I can print first layer without the problems shown on my first picture....

But....I’m still in doubt that the fantastic Bed Leveling System in my Prusa is working as it should do....

Regaards

OZ1BMO in Denmark

Posted : 15/02/2021 8:56 am
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