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Gagahhag
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Weird layer shift on long prints

Hi

I got a weird layer shift when long printing. I read several topics on this with possible solutions like:

  • Problem with transfers using Prusa Connect
  • Belt tension
  • Loos screews

I checked my hardware and everything seems fine and correctly fastened and tuned. The offset happens on X as well as on Y axis. What is also weird is that the offset happens at the same layer so I don't suspect the printer hardware to be the problem but the software (slicer and/or firmware).

So I went on and did some test print with different slicer settings. Basically I used the 0.2 structural system settings with Gyroid fill pattern. When I slice using the default pattern (Grid), the print will finish successful.

I was also able to record this on video. One hears a high pitch sound on Z layer move (at about second 5) and it seems the printer looses its Z position the next layer.

https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/02/7e862568-offset.mp4

Printer: MK4s
Firmware: 6.2.0 / 6.2.1
Slicer: PrusaSlicer v2.9.0

Got anyone an idea, what's causing this problem? Thanks!

Best Answer by Mike B:

 

Posted by: @gagahhag

I was also able to record this on video. One hears a high pitch sound on Z layer move (at about second 5) and it seems the printer looses its Z position the next layer.

https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/02/7e862568-offset.mp4

Printer: MK4s
Firmware: 6.2.0 / 6.2.1
Slicer: PrusaSlicer v2.9.0

Got anyone an idea, what's causing this problem? Thanks!

I think you mean it loses its Y (and maybe X) position after the noise at 5s...  not Z...

Switching to grid infill is the clue I think.  Check the release notes for firmware 6.2.1 - there is a rare but repeatable issue with gyroid infill and certain shapes.  With your thread pattern that might be the trigger (the initial post I saw was printing large gears).

It's possible (nobody has tried this to my knowledge) that if you change some of the gyroid parameters you might get it to print.  But I would just change to another infill and get the print done.  At least until the firmware issue is finally fixed...

See this thread: https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/english-forum-original-prusa-i3-mk4s-how-do-i-print-this/impossible-print-repeated-print-failures-arctos-robot-x-pulley/

Respondido : 22/02/2025 12:41 pm
Diem
 Diem
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Please show us the underside of a failed print.
Cheerio,

Respondido : 22/02/2025 3:06 pm
Gagahhag
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Topic starter answered:
RE:

Sure. First layer looks ok to me and the prints sticks well to the plate (satin powder-coated).

Got another picture of another print. This one got an offset in both directions. Left one is the underside.

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Respondido : 22/02/2025 4:47 pm
Mike B
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RE:

 

Posted by: @gagahhag

I was also able to record this on video. One hears a high pitch sound on Z layer move (at about second 5) and it seems the printer looses its Z position the next layer.

https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/02/7e862568-offset.mp4

Printer: MK4s
Firmware: 6.2.0 / 6.2.1
Slicer: PrusaSlicer v2.9.0

Got anyone an idea, what's causing this problem? Thanks!

I think you mean it loses its Y (and maybe X) position after the noise at 5s...  not Z...

Switching to grid infill is the clue I think.  Check the release notes for firmware 6.2.1 - there is a rare but repeatable issue with gyroid infill and certain shapes.  With your thread pattern that might be the trigger (the initial post I saw was printing large gears).

It's possible (nobody has tried this to my knowledge) that if you change some of the gyroid parameters you might get it to print.  But I would just change to another infill and get the print done.  At least until the firmware issue is finally fixed...

See this thread: https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/english-forum-original-prusa-i3-mk4s-how-do-i-print-this/impossible-print-repeated-print-failures-arctos-robot-x-pulley/

Prusa MK4 since Jan 2024, Printables: @MikeB_1505898

Respondido : 22/02/2025 4:54 pm
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Gagahhag
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Weird layer shift on long prints

Thank you Mike. Overread this in the changelog. Thanks you for pointing out.

Respondido : 22/02/2025 8:11 pm
SIERRA-880
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RE: Weird layer shift on long prints

I have been experiencing the exact same issue for the past two days while trying to print this: Silica Gel Dryer Spool. The instructions specify setting the top and bottom layers to 0 and using the infill as a vent. I am using 35% gyroid infill, and the issue occurs at random points with varying severity, producing the same noise as in your video.

I suppose we'll have to wait for a fix...

Respondido : 23/02/2025 7:45 pm
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