RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Soon enough tough, Prusa will be releasing a firmware to support their new 400C hot end.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
If the TDS is to be believed the mechanical properties are pretty good. It remains to be seen what can be achieved while printing especially in the Z axis but it is promising it already seems good. I wonder if the core version is abit easier to feed into the nextruder. Looks like I will need to do some minecraft and print that idler with PLA and then reprint when the time comes with ppa then pps lol
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Soon enough tough, Prusa will be releasing a firmware to support their new 400C hot end.
When do you think that might be? I see in master they already have the PT1000 and PT100 definitions. I need to check for the adc adjustment hopefully its there too. I also asked in a seperate thread about the thermal model for the hotend. This feeds into the PID loop. Do we know if that is being adjusted for the new hotend? It looks good but I was impatient and got some copperhead hotblocks too.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
I would expect the new firmware will be released before the hot end is shipped. They have it listed currently as "not in stock": HT Hotend Upgrade
I pretty sure they are busy at the moment patching all the XL bugs that were introduced with 6.4.0.
Also, I would expect PID tuning to be exposed in the firmware rather than running M303 and manually injecting it into the startup g-code.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Hopefully it won't take too long. I think alot of these settings should be accessible in a yaml file or something similar in the prusalink web interface they already have.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Morning all! I've been lurking the forum having recently purchased a Core One just before last summer. I use my printer for prototyping and technical builds rather than pretty toys etc. I have become excited when seeing that printing at up to 400 degrees C has become a potential option, but little frustrated Prusa hasn't given a release date. I was wondering if anyone has an inside scoop on the potential release date as trying to design whether to outsource part production, buy another brand of printer or wait it out.
Cheers!
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Morning all! I've been lurking the forum having recently purchased a Core One just before last summer. I use my printer for prototyping and technical builds rather than pretty toys etc. I have become excited when seeing that printing at up to 400 degrees C has become a potential option, but little frustrated Prusa hasn't given a release date. I was wondering if anyone has an inside scoop on the potential release date as trying to design whether to outsource part production, buy another brand of printer or wait it out.
Cheers!
If I were to guess, it will be in late March or April to coincide with the new PrusaSlicer 3.0 and INDX upgrade for the Core One.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Thats what it looks like from here too: https://www.reddit.com/r/prusa3d/comments/1qwikj6/comment/o3q16rh/?force-legacy-sct=1
Annoyingly the github doesnt seem to be up to date as I see no mention of the pt1000 even though they clearly have a beta firmware they are testing. I wish they would update a branch with that beta version so we can flash it ourselves.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Thanks for that information. Shame it is so long away, going to have to pull the trigger on another option as that is a bit far down the road. 🙁
Morning all! I've been lurking the forum having recently purchased a Core One just before last summer. I use my printer for prototyping and technical builds rather than pretty toys etc. I have become excited when seeing that printing at up to 400 degrees C has become a potential option, but little frustrated Prusa hasn't given a release date. I was wondering if anyone has an inside scoop on the potential release date as trying to design whether to outsource part production, buy another brand of printer or wait it out.
Cheers!
If I were to guess, it will be in late March or April to coincide with the new PrusaSlicer 3.0 and INDX upgrade for the Core One.
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Thats what it looks like from here too: https://www.reddit.com/r/prusa3d/comments/1qwikj6/comment/o3q16rh/?force-legacy-sct=1
Annoyingly the github doesnt seem to be up to date as I see no mention of the pt1000 even though they clearly have a beta firmware they are testing. I wish they would update a branch with that beta version so we can flash it ourselves.
There are two github repos. The public repo is only updated on day of release. From what I remember they only update it from the release branch and not from the betas.
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Saw a funny quote the other day:
The people who really need to print PEEK will not be screaming 'Why doesn't my printer handle PEEK?' because they will already own a printer that can handle it.
I can't think of any use case where I casual hobbyist need to print exotic plastics. I can think of one for myself since a newer hobby is high powered model rockets. But I think I don't need to go any further than PPA-CF.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
PPA-CF is pretty high performance already and it needs higher temperatures and there exist use cases for the PPS as well. At any rate this isn't really a valid excuse as it quickly degenerates to, whats the point of having the printer at all just buy the thing ready made. Polymers with nice properties exist and people want to use them. Anyway these discussions have been had on reddit and I don't think anyone suggested you would be able to print PEEK.
Where is this second github you mention?
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
I agree, no interest personally in using expensive polymers like PEEK, but totally would use PPS or PPA. I have been designing and test printing performance motorcycle engine parts using PA 612 CF and it's worked well for reed box manifolds in testing for a week or so. I was planning to have the final components made in aluminium but then the recent Prusa HT hot end has made me think could do it inhouse and reduce costs for many who are interested in purchasing by using PPS CF or GF. April / June is a long way away, so thinking to go back to looking at aluminium again. I might try using PA12 CF and use at 100% density to see how this works out in any case. The test ones were 40% infill and maybe 4 layers and worked fine.
PPA-CF is pretty high performance already and it needs higher temperatures and there exist use cases for the PPS as well. At any rate this isn't really a valid excuse as it quickly degenerates to, whats the point of having the printer at all just buy the thing ready made. Polymers with nice properties exist and people want to use them. Anyway these discussions have been had on reddit and I don't think anyone suggested you would be able to print PEEK.
Where is this second github you mention?
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
PPA-CF is pretty high performance already and it needs higher temperatures and there exist use cases for the PPS as well. At any rate this isn't really a valid excuse as it quickly degenerates to, whats the point of having the printer at all just buy the thing ready made. Polymers with nice properties exist and people want to use them. Anyway these discussions have been had on reddit and I don't think anyone suggested you would be able to print PEEK.
Where is this second github you mention?
I've said this elsewhere, but no one who really needs to print PEEK is screaming "Why can't my printer handle PEEK???" Those who need to print it already have a printer capable of doing it.
The second github is Prusa's internal (and private) github.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
I assume the high temperature and engineering polymer aspect of all this for the proof of printers was to greatly reduce the cost of 3-D printing for aerospace applications like drones. a quad copter frame is fairly flat. Probably could be printed on these in PEEK or PEKK. you can have more functionally than cutting carbon fiber sheets.
just a guess.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
It can be as simple as wanting to print a part for a bicycle or your model rocket (whatever), you don't have to fixate on PEEK. Tommy_Prusa3d on the link I shared, was printing PEKK and it looked quite good and its still way worse than an Aluminium part so that puts things into context.
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It can be as simple as wanting to print a part for a bicycle or your model rocket (whatever), you don't have to fixate on PEEK. Tommy_Prusa3d on the link I shared, was printing PEKK and it looked quite good and its still way worse than an Aluminium part so that puts things into context.
It's not that. My point is that most people who complain their printer can't handle PEEK, PEI, PEKK, PSU or whatever probably don't have a need to print it in the first place. The Core One in it's current configuration can print 99% of the consumer grade plastics.
I've got an INDX on the way so this hot end doesn't appeal to me. Not only that, but without an actively heated chamber that can reach 65°+, having a HT hot end might for example open up PPU and PEKK-CF but you are still limited to smaller parts. So it's (to me) just a gimmick.
That said, I still need a printer that can reach 400+ and has an insulated actively heated chamber that can reach 65° to support my other hobby. Because I do have the need to print some off these professional grade plastics. However, the Core One is not that printer.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Consumer and professional plastic distinctions is abit arbitrary. At any rate they should have the beta firmware public. There are several projects for chamber heating including a product by bq which seems interesting
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Consumer and professional plastic distinctions is abit arbitrary. At any rate they should have the beta firmware public. There are several projects for chamber heating including a product by bq which seems interesting
The distinction I make is that if it costs more than $200/kg or you need a >$10K printer to print it, then it's a professional filament.
Heating the chamber is not the issue, it's whether the motors, parts and lubricants can handle the heat. Also, without an actively heated chamber, you need to keep the bed temp artificially high to maintain temperature. Then there are the temperature gradients because the chamber is not insulated. With these advanced polymers, even with a HT nozzle you probably won't be able to effectively print anything larger than a Benchy.
My guess is that the beta firmware will be released end of March.
RE: HT CORE One: 500c Nozzle and a Fully Automatic, Inputless, Actively Heated, Insulated Chamber
Can reprint stuff and get cpap cooling.