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Rocky79
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Debossed Text slicer setting

Hello everyone,

Can you please tell me what settings in the slicer affects the actual speed at the debossed text location? 
It seems that the slicer slows down the print at the marked transitions ( green is half the outer perimeter speed) . 

Thanks in advance. 

This topic was modified 5 hours ago by Rocky79
Posted : 18/10/2024 4:45 pm
Neophyl
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RE: Debossed Text slicer setting

You are looking at actual speed estimates.  That's estimates of what it *thinks* the real world speeds will be from all your settings.  Its not a single setting.  There's the obvious ones like your various print speed settings of course but then there's all the settings under Printers>Machine Limits.  Those define acceleration, jerk limits etc.  Then there are flow rates, volumetric slopes if they are set in your profile.  Its a synergy of all of them.

That view option is new and its a 'best guess'.

Posted : 18/10/2024 5:02 pm
Rocky79
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Topic starter answered:
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Posted by: @neophyl

You are looking at actual speed estimates.  That's estimates of what it *thinks* the real world speeds will be from all your settings.  Its not a single setting.  There's the obvious ones like your various print speed settings of course but then there's all the settings under Printers>Machine Limits.  Those define acceleration, jerk limits etc.  Then there are flow rates, volumetric slopes if they are set in your profile.  Its a synergy of all of them.

That view option is new and its a 'best guess'.

Thank you. I am trying to duplicate those settings to another slicer “ Bambu Studio” 
Bambu Studio doesn’t slow down at those marked transitions.
I matched all the obvious parameters, speeds, flow rates, layer height...etc.
What else I might be missing that Prusa slicer is doing that I am not aware of?  
PS: The actual speed is actually pretty accurate. the text comes out way better than the one from Bambu Studio. 

This post was modified 4 hours ago by Rocky79
Posted : 18/10/2024 5:22 pm
Neophyl
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RE: Debossed Text slicer setting

Does bambu have the same actual speed preview option yet or does it only have the normal Speed one ?  I don't use Bambu, I know its a fork and has taken most of the PS code for its use and added some but thats about it.

Have you checked the machine limits ones I mentioned ?

Posted : 18/10/2024 5:28 pm
Neophyl
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RE: Debossed Text slicer setting

btw I just did a simple test and it is the values from Printers>Machine limits.  Even if you say ignore.  It will use them for the estimate of speeds

I turned the acceleration up to stupid values (100000) and that makes all the lines go a single colour, same speed as its assuming accel is near instantaneous, and the corners being different get smaller in area with an increase of jerk as I expected.  Set jerk to something also stupid large and it will assume in can change directions instantly.  Basically ignoring the laws of physics.

Posted : 18/10/2024 5:45 pm
Rocky79
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Debossed Text slicer setting

 

Posted by: @neophyl

Does bambu have the same actual speed preview option yet or does it only have the normal Speed one ?  I don't use Bambu, I know its a fork and has taken most of the PS code for its use and added some but thats about it.

Have you checked the machine limits ones I mentioned ?

Bambu Studio doesn’t have the actual speed option but I can tell from the actual print. Sharp corners have a long slope instead of sharp transition. I checked the machine limit on the Prusa which are much lower than that on the Bambu X1C. 

Posted : 18/10/2024 6:29 pm
Rocky79
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Debossed Text slicer setting

 

Posted by: @neophyl

btw I just did a simple test and it is the values from Printers>Machine limits.  Even if you say ignore.  It will use them for the estimate of speeds

I turned the acceleration up to stupid values (100000) and that makes all the lines go a single colour, same speed as its assuming accel is near instantaneous, and the corners being different get smaller in area with an increase of jerk as I expected.  Set jerk to something also stupid large and it will assume in can change directions instantly.  Basically ignoring the laws of physics.

Good find! I am going to try that. Thank you very much.

You can see than Bambu X1C has a much higher acceleration limit than Mk4.
The only issue is that the acceleration limits are greyed out, I need to slow them down, maybe manually to match the text quality of the Prusa.  
I just found out that Pressure Advance calibration uses the acceleration in the machine limit and not the ones from the slicer settings under acceleration. 

 

Posted : 18/10/2024 6:36 pm
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