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I ended up paying 323€ (including a tad below 20€ for shipping and Paypal fees, and after deduction of the 130€ down payment). That's for a bare-bones 4-tool package; I will wait and see before I decide on additional nozzle diameters. Oh, and for the ugly T-shirt of course.
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I ended up paying 323€ (including a tad below 20€ for shipping and Paypal fees, and after deduction of the 130€ down payment). That's for a bare-bones 4-tool package; I will wait and see before I decide on additional nozzle diameters. Oh, and for the ugly T-shirt of course.
Should have mentioned that these were net prices excl. VAT.
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There's only one thing that I don't like. Why they put in this ugly bracket for the toolholders? Isn't anyone else bothered by this? Nozzle sizes might be on .4 because one wants to avoid the same issues as with the early XLs?
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I ended up paying 323€ (including a tad below 20€ for shipping and Paypal fees, and after deduction of the 130€ down payment). That's for a bare-bones 4-tool package; I will wait and see before I decide on additional nozzle diameters. Oh, and for the ugly T-shirt of course.
Should have mentioned that these were net prices excl. VAT.
Tried to load the website but didn’t have the patience to hang around long enough to let it load… but on those prices. Wasn’t it meant to the 250 for the head and 35 per tool. So 390. But sounds like they’re haven’t managed to maintain that. Not too far off it.
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Ooof! Not sure what to make of this…I know visibility was a big factor for you @jurgen-7 :
Looks like we lose 15 mm on Y axis, and 2 on X axis.
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Wasn’t it meant to the 250 for the head and 35 per tool. So 390. But sounds like they’re haven’t managed to maintain that. Not too far off it.
Those were very early ballpark targets. At FormNext they announced 499 for the four-tool and 699 for the eight-tool version -- same numbers in USD excl. tax & duties or EUR incl. VAT, I believe.
The actual prices are pretty exactly that. The major setback is that you only get 0.4 mm nozzles as part of the packages, so those who wanted other diameters right away had to pay extra for additional nozzles.
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Ooof! Not sure what to make of this…I know visibility was a big factor for you @jurgen-7 :
Hmpf -- that looks very different from what they advertised. Bait & switch? Where was that photo published?
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Dunno the source, I pinched it off Discord so take with a pinch of salt for now.
I think that is all the top front profile in the ‘included parts’ list…I think thats all one piece.
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so, someone else IS concerned :D. This is from Bondtechs website. This part replaces the front-top beam of the frame.
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Dunno the source, I pinched it off Discord so take with a pinch of salt for now.
I think that is all the top front profile in the ‘included parts’ list…I think thats all one piece.
Looking closely at the recent "INDX Update" Youtube videos from Prusa, that ugly fence indeed seems to be hiding behind the closed printer door. 🙁
Darn. I can kind of get it that they may have realized, late in the game, that the slender mounting bar wobbles too much and they need a wider support base for reliable operation. But can't they at least hire an industrial designer to make sure the new part does not look like shit?
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Dunno the source, I pinched it off Discord so take with a pinch of salt for now.
I think that is all the top front profile in the ‘included parts’ list…I think thats all one piece.
Looking closely at the recent "INDX Update" Youtube videos from Prusa, that ugly fence indeed seems to be hiding behind the closed printer door. 🙁
Darn. I can kind of get it that they may have realized, late in the game, that the slender mounting bar wobbles too much and they need a wider support base for reliable operation. But can't they at least hire an industrial designer to make sure the new part does not look like shit?
Maybe he was in the 25% that got laid off !
That was exactly my first thought, Bondtech are saying its Prusas design, nothing to do with them. If it's not needed on the Dev kit, why is it needed on the C1?
I can see there being quite a bit of backlash online about this. Be interesting to see what Prusa do.
Prusa are saying it improves reliability a lot, but surely there are more attractive and less visually obstructive ways to do that.
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I can see there being quite a bit of backlash online about this. Be interesting to see what Prusa do.
Prusa are saying it improves reliability a lot, but surely there are more attractive and less visually obstructive ways to do that.
They don't seem to be having any second thoughts about the "tank turret" hood for the MMU and INDX. So I don't have high hopes for the INDX fence.
It's disappointing, after the Core One looked like the first Prusa product where someone actually cared about industrial design. (Not counting the SL1 and the HT90 here, which both came in via acquisitions.) But the Core One add-ons -- tank turret, INDX spool holders and now the fence -- were clearly designed by engineers with a complete disregard for appearance and a very narrow view of usability.
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And I'm gonna presume that part is the same for 4 and 8 tool kits....you just mount 4 or 8 tools.
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Oh wow, that’s a difference. Bit of a deal breaker for me I think. I was going with 4 so I could still see and get access to the bed as well. With the turret on top and that front cover that’s awkward as hell
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And I'm gonna presume that part is the same for 4 and 8 tool kits....you just mount 4 or 8 tools.
Yes, I am afraid so. It can't provide the added torsional stability unless it runs across the full width, and is anchored at the top too.
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Oh wow, that’s a difference. Bit of a deal breaker for me I think. I was going with 4 so I could still see and get access to the bed as well. With the turret on top and that front cover that’s awkward as hell
Same here. I will write Bondtech an email and ask for confirmation that this is what will be shipping, suggesting that I will probably cancel my order if this is the final design.
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I think there was a bit of a hint with the 'whats included' section split into 'by Bontech', and 'by Prusa' sections...I think Bondetch want to distance themselves from this, and also they extended the cutoff for refunds, probably knowing many would back out when they saw this.
Wow and to think a few hours ago I thought the T-shirt was the monstrosity 😂
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I’ll see how the week progresses but I was on the fence anyway as I’ve spent months trouble shooting the C1 and didn’t want to dive back into more with the indx. With this change it might be a… wait a few months and see scenario. Need to figure out how to get my deposit back 😂
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This is from Bondtechs website. This part replaces the front-top beam of the frame.
Where on the Bondtech website can I see this abomination? Was it published before they started taking orders?
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That’s actually annoyed me a fair bit now. I just both a Spacepi x4 in prep, spending time designing some mods for the core one for the Bowden runs from the drier as well.