Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
What do you all think the chances are of Prusa releasing a heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One that would mimic the new, solid-aluminum heatbed of the CORE One L, but fit the smaller printer? I really like the idea of the solid-aluminum heatbed. That alone is making me consider the CORE One L over the CORE One. I just wish they offered it in the smaller form factor.
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This explains, why they are getting cheaper with replacement parts on the CoreOne.
In 2026 I can see an upgrade path for CoreOne to CoreOneL, spring ?
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This explains, why they are getting cheaper with replacement parts on the CoreOne.
In 2026 I can see an upgrade path for CoreOne to CoreOneL, spring ?
I don't see how that is possible. The only thing you could carry over in an upgrade is the Nextruder, and maybe the screen.
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I assume there is some room here for a Core ONE S - maybe the switchable intake for TPU, the auto vent open/close / tweaked lid, accelerometer in the tool head (assuming that is just a new Love board that's compatible otherwise), included camera. Not sure what else. But the MK4S upgrade was pretty modest so this could be similar.
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All this stuff: TPU mods for sensors, auto vent open/close, detachable lid are available through Printables already. The only thing that would entice me to upgrade (and not jump to Bambu or SnapMaker) is the INDX system and enhanced bed. Wish I could have a hotter hot end as well as well as an actively heated chamber.
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
Oh yeah, I get that. But it's a bit different when they're packaged and supported by Prusa (which also means supported by their slicer/firmware in a "first class" way, etc).
Most of what the MK4S is was also available as MK4 mods after all.
For all we know an "S" upgrade (maybe they will name it "M" for CORE One M 🙂 ) might be a prerequisite for the INDX for whatever other changes to unify it with the L for simplicity moving forward.
All this stuff: TPU mods for sensors, auto vent open/close, detachable lid are available through Printables already. The only thing that would entice me to upgrade (and not jump to Bambu or SnapMaker) is the INDX system and enhanced bed. Wish I could have a hotter hot end as well as well as an actively heated chamber.
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Im not 100% sure but I think the problem is regulation. In many European countries there is a regulation that you have to be qualified to work with mains voltage, which is what the new heatbed is.
This ties in with why there is no kit version available of the Core One L.
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I remember that being a potential issue with the BL A1 and the faulty heat bed cable fiasco.
I don't know what the law actually entails though - I wondered if a completely cohesive unit that just has secure plugs on either end would be legal - as you aren't doing "repairs" or messing with the internal wiring itself. Obviously no idea if that's a feasible way to attach it.
Of course if that won't fly, it's going to suck if you need a replacement heat bed in the EU. Ship the entire printer to Czechia?
My hope was that the lack of kit version was just because the kits always lag behind the assembled, and this time they didn't want to advertise it too early... Unless you heard there will definitely be no kit.
Im not 100% sure but I think the problem is regulation. In many European countries there is a regulation that you have to be qualified to work with mains voltage, which is what the new heatbed is.
This ties in with why there is no kit version available of the Core One L.
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
Im not 100% sure but I think the problem is regulation. In many European countries there is a regulation that you have to be qualified to work with mains voltage, which is what the new heatbed is.
This ties in with why there is no kit version available of the Core One L.
Seems reasonable to me. I have a suspicion that part of it could also be the litigious nature of the US.
And to the extreme (and not sure if this is still the case) but once-upon-a-time in my NYC office we were not even allowed to plug and unplug appliances. A "qualified" member of the electrician's union had to be called... You know... in case I injured myself.
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My hope was that the lack of kit version was just because the kits always lag behind the assembled, and this time they didn't want to advertise it too early... Unless you heard there will definitely be no kit.
Not sure if there's been a definitive statement about it, but the fact that they're discontinuing the mini kit (but not assembled mini) is a sign they may be moving away from kit-based assembly in general (and/or finally refreshing the mini line).
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
they will also be no longer selling the "semi assembled" XL at end of year per tommy prusa on reddit (iirc)
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My hope was that the lack of kit version was just because the kits always lag behind the assembled, and this time they didn't want to advertise it too early... Unless you heard there will definitely be no kit.
Not sure if there's been a definitive statement about it, but the fact that they're discontinuing the mini kit (but not assembled mini) is a sign they may be moving away from kit-based assembly in general (and/or finally refreshing the mini line).
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My hope was that the lack of kit version was just because the kits always lag behind the assembled, and this time they didn't want to advertise it too early... Unless you heard there will definitely be no kit.
Not sure if there's been a definitive statement about it, but the fact that they're discontinuing the mini kit (but not assembled mini) is a sign they may be moving away from kit-based assembly in general (and/or finally refreshing the mini line).
Honestly although disappointing, it really isn't a surprise...as these printers are becoming more complex, so will the assembly. They'll weigh up return rates of kits vs pre-assembled, hours spent by support staff solving user caused issues and calculate the costs accordingly.
If providing kits doesn't make sense from a financial perspective then the writings on the wall.
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
Yes - I commented already OT in another thread. An upgrade 24V to 230V heatbed is difficult, there is a regulatory wall most likely too high to make it worth the trouble. Nothing is impossible but it needs to make economic sense also, given that most people are happily printing PLA and need cooling not heating.
But, a 230V chamber heater as a completely independent device would be something (attach via a NFC pad if desperate for connectivity, WLAN via ESP32 would seem logical for most users). Connectivity could be fail-safe in a sense that commands are only given for e.g. 15 seconds ahead. If the connection breaks, the auxilliary chamber heater just shuts down and we're back to default Core One.
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Judging from previous upgrade pricing, I think it will make more sense for me to wait for a Core ONE L or S with INDX to come available and buy that after the pre-order people finish alpha testing it. That way I don't have to spend time and effort undoing the MMU3 integration and trying to sell it.
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I know European regulations and tradition are different than the U.S. I think we have more DIY leway in the U.S. If you buy a major appliance with 220V supply, you often need to buy and install the cord that matches your homes power plug. The instructions come for DIY, but you can also pay for installation. Usually done by whoever the store hired and trained a little.
Hopefully there can be a kit for an aluminum heat bed. Current Core One 24v may work if we don't need faster heat up. The mounting system needs to handle the increased thermal growth of aluminum. 250mm of aluminum length at a 90C temp change will grow about .5mm. Hmm another project for the stack...
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I think that as long as the heatbed would be one sealed CE approved unit and have approved plugs and cables I don’t see the issue with the heatbed in Europe. That would also mean it needs to be replaced as one unit, repairing or assembly yourself would not be legal. It would not stop anyone from assembling a printer though, just don’t tamper with the heatbed internals. The same rules already apply to the power supply so this is not really anything new.
/Anders
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I did mk3, mk3s, mk4, mk4s, core1 as upgrades or kits but I see the advantages of selling the finished product. This leaves one issue open: for me the major attractiveness of Prusa was the continuos upgrade path. If this is kept (ie I buy a factory assembled unit and then upgrade it myself) then all ok, if this means the end of upgradeability it would be a huge loss.
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My hope was that the lack of kit version was just because the kits always lag behind the assembled, and this time they didn't want to advertise it too early... Unless you heard there will definitely be no kit.
Not sure if there's been a definitive statement about it, but the fact that they're discontinuing the mini kit (but not assembled mini) is a sign they may be moving away from kit-based assembly in general (and/or finally refreshing the mini line).
Honestly although disappointing, it really isn't a surprise...as these printers are becoming more complex, so will the assembly. They'll weigh up return rates of kits vs pre-assembled, hours spent by support staff solving user caused issues and calculate the costs accordingly.
If providing kits doesn't make sense from a financial perspective then the writings on the wall.
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The massive advantage from Prusa's perspective is they can completely rule out any potential issues with whether the user has assembled the printer correctly. The burden on support alone must be absolutely huge.
I'm fully with you wrt to upgradability...but surely there is a still a path that can be used so they're not turning their back on this.
I noticed they are not providing part assembled XL kits from the end of the year (I think).
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I see what you mean: the Core1 start was in no way comparable to the mk4 one, I do not remember such a storm of problems as what we have seen in the forum for the core 1... now let's just hope we can a core one plus/s/whatever with IDX and the upgrades released with the core one L...
The massive advantage from Prusa's perspective is they can completely rule out any potential issues with whether the user has assembled the printer correctly. The burden on support alone must be absolutely huge.
I'm fully with you wrt to upgradability...but surely there is a still a path that can be used so they're not turning their back on this.I noticed they are not providing part assembled XL kits from the end of the year (I think).
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I was planning to order a Core One by the end of the year, but now the Core One L just came out… Not sure what to do!
I’m not too interested in the larger build volume or the extra 5°C in the chamber... Will the new heated bed really make a big difference?
I guess the print quality should be pretty similar otherwise. Let’s see how it performs regarding VFA. But with the new Core One firmware, this issue seems to be solved — or am I mistaken?