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gruagach
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What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

If you don’t see your preferred choice in the poll, please add it in the comments.

Posted : 23/12/2024 11:28 am
Diem
 Diem
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Change any of those and it won't be a core one - and all will increase the price, from slightly for a filter to perhaps ten times for a higher temperature facility.  Fuss about changes after you have used one for a few months.

Cheerio,

Posted : 23/12/2024 1:50 pm
gruagach
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Topic starter answered:
RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

Not really fussing, or wanting a change, really thinking about the next model.  I understand what you’re saying though—best to focus on what we have rather than what we don’t.  Cheers!

Posted : 24/12/2024 5:35 pm
Brian
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

I'll buy or make some sort of active chamber Filtration, hopefully using the same parts as the Prusa active filtration so they I can stock the same filter.  I designed and engineered one for my Sumo enclosure that used all the same parts.  Depending on what Prusa comes out with I may just do the same thing. 

Other than that like Diem said I have no idea.

Posted : 24/12/2024 6:09 pm
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NarlyB
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

I would like to see an option to add an active chamber heater.  I would also like to see a nozzle wipe pad like on the bambu printers.  I would also like an option to add more led lights.

Posted : 28/03/2025 10:35 pm
Cédric
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Definitely higher temp capability, its the reason i hesitated for putting down an order. Having at least ca 320deg nozzle temp(like the competitors)should have been a given, to handle all the new type high spec materials, especially since they seem to promote their printers for workshop and semi professional use. Hopefully it will be possible to do some kind of upgrade for that. Regarding chamber heater it's most likely something i will have to make myself, it doesn't seem like it can handle workshop temperatures very well and need some help.

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Posted : 29/03/2025 7:14 am
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altaic
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

Ten times higher price for a higher temperature hotend like 350C? Please explain.

Posted by: @diem

Change any of those and it won't be a core one - and all will increase the price, from slightly for a filter to perhaps ten times for a higher temperature facility.  Fuss about changes after you have used one for a few months.

Cheerio,

 

Posted : 29/03/2025 10:02 am
LarGriff
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

Most important option not listed.

RELIABILITY

MK4S/MMU3

Posted : 29/03/2025 1:09 pm
Brian
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

 

Posted by: @cedric

Definitely higher temp capability, its the reason i hesitated for putting down an order. Having at least ca 320deg nozzle temp(like the competitors)should have been a given, to handle all the new type high spec materials, especially since they seem to promote their printers for workshop and semi professional use. Hopefully it will be possible to do some kind of upgrade for that. Regarding chamber heater it's most likely something i will have to make myself, it doesn't seem like it can handle workshop temperatures very well and need some help.

I'm curious, what materials do you need 320 for that you can't print with 300?

Posted : 29/03/2025 1:51 pm
Jürgen
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?
Posted by: @altaic

Ten times higher price for a higher temperature hotend like 350C? Please explain. 

I think "higher temperature facility" was interpreted as not just an increased hotend temperature, but also higher bed and chamber temperatures. The chamber temperature in particular becomes challenging, because you can't easily have the various active components (motors, electronics, fans) operate at more than ~60°C environmental temperature.

That's one key reason why the HT90 uses the very different Delta mechanism, with motors and fans outside the chamber.  That model is indeed 10x the price of the Core One. Although I would expect that one can find halfway solutions to achieve higher temperatures which could be made for halfway prices.

Posted : 29/03/2025 2:48 pm
Cédric
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Posted by: @brian-12

 

Posted by: @cedric

Definitely higher temp capability, its the reason i hesitated for putting down an order. Having at least ca 320deg nozzle temp(like the competitors)should have been a given, to handle all the new type high spec materials, especially since they seem to promote their printers for workshop and semi professional use. Hopefully it will be possible to do some kind of upgrade for that. Regarding chamber heater it's most likely something i will have to make myself, it doesn't seem like it can handle workshop temperatures very well and need some help.

I'm curious, what materials do you need 320 for that you can't print with 300?

Materials like all the new types of PPA will be borderline with 290, 300 would be better for sure. And for PPS its just not enough, 310-330C would have solved that, the bed and chamber temps are fine. These type of materials enables more printing applications that maybe weren't possible before. I know most most people around here makes star wars helmets,. figures and phone holders, but some of us do stuff for tougher environments and are always in search of new higher performing materials 🙂 its just annoying that such a small increase would enable it, not that big of an extra cost since the rest of the setup will be up for it.

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Posted : 29/03/2025 4:29 pm
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NarlyB
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

I'm not proposing they change the base features on the Core One.  I'm proposing they make addons/accessories so I can increase the capability of the core one to meet my individual needs.  I'm sure other vendors will make some of these. 

Posted : 29/03/2025 5:55 pm
Diem
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Ten times higher price ... ?

@jurgen-7 has the essence - the printer is designed to meet a expected use case and it's parts and materials are chosen accordingly.  For example, already the hotend runs too hot for solder connections but not too hot to disrupt the nextruder electronics - or the lubrication in the gearing - or the hardness of the gear teeth - or to ignite the housing - or any of dozens of constraints.  Look at commercial engineering/industrial printers, even the ones with similar abilities to the Core One cost many times the price but anything running hotter adds another zero.

Then look at Prusa's offering in the space, the HT90, to solve those problems they have, effectively, had to add another zero.

Cheerio,

Posted : 29/03/2025 8:20 pm
NarlyB
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

I agree.

Some improvements would add a zero on the end of the price tag.  while others not. An accessory with a thermal switch to assist initial chamber heating as an ad on would not.   Someone could come up with pre-made magnetically attached insulator panels to help heat loss. There is a class of accessories that could be added that would enhance the capabilities with out adding a zero.  The Core one does meet most of my needs for it's use case.  

Posted : 29/03/2025 8:30 pm
altaic
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

It’s really not that complicated or expensive. I have plans to replace the hotend and puppy board, plus improve cooling a tad. The only reason I haven’t done so already is I’m waiting on firmware fixes for VFAs and other issues. If Prusa leaves those unresolved and my return window closes, I’ll return my Core One and look at other options— which, btw, are not 10X the price, but are actually equally or less expensive.

Posted by: @diem

Ten times higher price ... ?

@jurgen-7 has the essence - the printer is designed to meet a expected use case and it's parts and materials are chosen accordingly.  For example, already the hotend runs too hot for solder connections but not too hot to disrupt the nextruder electronics - or the lubrication in the gearing - or the hardness of the gear teeth - or to ignite the housing - or any of dozens of constraints.  Look at commercial engineering/industrial printers, even the ones with similar abilities to the Core One cost many times the price but anything running hotter adds another zero.

Then look at Prusa's offering in the space, the HT90, to solve those problems they have, effectively, had to add another zero.

Cheerio,

 

Posted : 29/03/2025 9:44 pm
Frank
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

I'd rather have a revo-style nozzle swap system like I had on my MK3s...

Posted : 29/03/2025 10:25 pm
Diem
 Diem
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I’ll return my Core One and look at other options— which, btw, are not 10X the price, but are actually equally or less expensive.

In that case you are looking at hobbyist kit which will need very careful management if you attempt to raise working temperatures.

Cheerio,

Cheerio,

Posted : 29/03/2025 11:57 pm
altaic
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RE: What new features are most needed for the CORE One?

Well my Core One has certainly lowered my standards thus far, and I’ve had it for over a month. Prusa has in the past been pretty good at ironing out issues, but their development is just glacial.

Posted by: @diem

I’ll return my Core One and look at other options— which, btw, are not 10X the price, but are actually equally or less expensive.

In that case you are looking at hobbyist kit which will need very careful management if you attempt to raise working temperatures.

Cheerio,

Cheerio,

 

Posted : 30/03/2025 12:09 am
Diem
 Diem
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Visit one of the big trade hows to see what your options are - eg., rapid+tct is coming up soon:

https://www.printables.com/event/rapid-tct-2025-JVylm65

Cheerio,

 

Posted : 30/03/2025 1:06 am
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