RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Ordered mine Feb 3 with the camera. A May delivery would be very much appreciated!
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Buy European, American, or Canadian made filament and you don't have to worry.
Definitely do, when I have the opportunity to... and even try to steer my customers to using better materials.
However, when printing items for customers, in bulk, explaining to them their cost is going to double or triple, because I'm having to pay 3x the cost for filament, goes over like a sack of bricks with them.
As an example, I get my bulk PETG at $6-8 a roll from a well known manufacturer. Made in the USA filaments generally run $15-50 per 1kg... and that's not considering that most of their sourced materials to make the filament with, are globally sourced... so their source materials pricing are going to go up.
Not to mention the cost and difficulties ramping up for production.. just Ask Tangled Filament/Slant3D about that. They're about the cheapest domestic filament manufacturer I've found, whose product is actually useful.
Basically, as much as I love Prusament and other well known brands.. they're often cost prohibitive when printing in bulk.... I DO have hope that Prusament will start being more cost effective, if/when PrintedSolid starts producing some of their filament, here.
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Expect first batch shipments at the very end of April.
Build guide is currently being refined.
Same situation as with the Kit version.
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Not sure whether it was mentioned yet: Prusa has a 6.2.4 firmware release in the works, which (among some other minor fixes) seems prepared to deal with an MK4S controller which "suddenly" turns into a Core One.
https://github.com/prusa3d/Prusa-Firmware-Buddy/releases
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Only one notice -still there are not print parts for Core One free for download
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
It’s comming
Only one notice -still there are not print parts for Core One free for download
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Same here, I'm really looking forward to the conversion kit! Curious to see how smoothly the transition goes with the CORE XY setup. Hoping they stick to the timeline, but wouldn’t be surprised if it slips into May. Fingers crossed for an earlier rollout!
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
I'm holding out ordering my upgrade kit until the delivery backlog gets reduced to a month or less. Less time between when Prusa takes my money and when I get my upgrade kit. Hopefully the "Introductory Price" language doesn't bite me in the posterior... I'm not sure if I should be worried about tariffs or not since the upgrade kit is well below $800USD it should hopefully be immune from import tariffs. (I haven't heard that the "leader" of the US is changing that threshold yet. Hopefully he doesn't know about it.)
See my (limited) designs on:
Printables - https://www.printables.com/@Sembazuru
Thingiverse - https://www.thingiverse.com/Sembazuru/designs
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Waiting since 2025-02-11. I'm not too optimistic about April ship given that the "Up-to-date shipping information" has no information. 🙁
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
As a new Prusa customer, having assembled an MK4S kit a few months ago and ordering the CoreOne kit on 2/8, my observation is that the vaunted Prusa customer service does not extend to keeping customers informed on shipping dates. I am a person who relies upon my own research skills to resolve issues, so this is one area where I do rely on the manufacturer to be on point. Having relied upon Prusa, Bambu and (even) Creality in the past year to provide shipping transparency on their products, I can confidently say that Prusa is dead last in this important and highly visible metric. I know most of you are long time fans and have resigned yourself to this. I understand why Prusa can't compete on cost and my buy-in should tell you that I'm willing to see past that, but this is an unforced error that could be corrected with a change in policy and a bit of effort.
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
As a new Prusa customer, having assembled an MK4S kit a few months ago and ordering the CoreOne kit on 2/8, my observation is that the vaunted Prusa customer service does not extend to keeping customers informed on shipping dates. I am a person who relies upon my own research skills to resolve issues, so this is one area where I do rely on the manufacturer to be on point. Having relied upon Prusa, Bambu and (even) Creality in the past year to provide shipping transparency on their products, I can confidently say that Prusa is dead last in this important and highly visible metric. I know most of you are long time fans and have resigned yourself to this. I understand why Prusa can't compete on cost and my buy-in should tell you that I'm willing to see past that, but this is an unforced error that could be corrected with a change in policy and a bit of effort.
Lately their approach has always been the same: they announce new models with dazzling features, only to deliver mediocre products months late—after pocketing your money well in advance. By now their printers have become an end in themselves: the average Prusa fan spends their time fixing teething problems by installing upgrades that the company releases in a desperate attempt to keep up with competitors. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, but Prusa used to be much more, and the 3D‑printing world is no longer made up solely of tinkerers.I’ve ordered the Core One upgrade, after which I’ll put the machine up for sale—Prusa has fallen too far behind and their support is no longer what it once was. I’ve realised that everything from the MK4 to the Core One has basically been one long beta test.
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This is certainly an interesting perspective, and one you are free to have. There are, however, many of us who haven't at all felt like beta testers and have been happily printing from the point of purchase, largely trouble free. Sure there are service items, and things to watch for, even perhaps to a larger degree than BL, but the cons of that ecosystem far outweigh the benefits to me. Any brand outside of BL as an alternative ultimately doesn't have the anywhere near the reliability/longevity or support that either Prusa or BL have.
As is true for too many areas these days, many people rush to label any differing voice as a "fanboy" in a dismissive way, rather than considering the fact that many of us are grappling with the same options, just simply choosing differently. It also doesn't mean that our future decisions may not change, only that when looking at the currently available options, Prusa still offers the best fit.
I'm even curious about the Fusion3 F200 as a (US) domestic option, and may even consider it for our office if we decide to start making more repair parts rather than paying ever-rising prices. I'm awaiting further info in it before recommending it though.
Complicated or trendy features simply don't hold my interest at all, nor does a machine that isn't easily serviceable. Prusa printers, with their "shameful lack of comparable features," are busy putting out comparable quality parts, and are trusted by folks everywhere. High demand and shipping delays are a reflection of that. If you don't see their value, or it's not worth the wait for you, that's ok, but don't assume the value isn't still there for thousands of others.
-J
As a new Prusa customer, having assembled an MK4S kit a few months ago and ordering the CoreOne kit on 2/8, my observation is that the vaunted Prusa customer service does not extend to keeping customers informed on shipping dates. I am a person who relies upon my own research skills to resolve issues, so this is one area where I do rely on the manufacturer to be on point. Having relied upon Prusa, Bambu and (even) Creality in the past year to provide shipping transparency on their products, I can confidently say that Prusa is dead last in this important and highly visible metric. I know most of you are long time fans and have resigned yourself to this. I understand why Prusa can't compete on cost and my buy-in should tell you that I'm willing to see past that, but this is an unforced error that could be corrected with a change in policy and a bit of effort.
Lately their approach has always been the same: they announce new models with dazzling features, only to deliver mediocre products months late—after pocketing your money well in advance. By now their printers have become an end in themselves: the average Prusa fan spends their time fixing teething problems by installing upgrades that the company releases in a desperate attempt to keep up with competitors. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, but Prusa used to be much more, and the 3D‑printing world is no longer made up solely of tinkerers.I’ve ordered the Core One upgrade, after which I’ll put the machine up for sale—Prusa has fallen too far behind and their support is no longer what it once was. I’ve realised that everything from the MK4 to the Core One has basically been one long beta test.
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
High demand and shipping delays are a reflection of that. If you don't see their value, or it's not worth the wait for you, that's ok, but don't assume the value isn't still there for thousands of others.
-J
Constant shipping delays, to me, are a sign of insufficient production capacity. They’re also the only ones who ask for money months in advance. Still, I’m grateful to them: first, because they got me hooked on 3‑D printing, and second, because their delay in delivering the MK4 led me to buy a BL x1c.
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Waiting here, ordered 31/01 a few minutes after announcement...
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Late comer to the party. Found the thread looking for news. Ordered March 12th. Kit, Camera, and a few power cables in the event I need to return my MK4S to stock.
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
High demand and shipping delays are a reflection of that. If you don't see their value, or it's not worth the wait for you, that's ok, but don't assume the value isn't still there for thousands of others.
-J
Constant shipping delays, to me, are a sign of insufficient production capacity. They’re also the only ones who ask for money months in advance. Still, I’m grateful to them: first, because they got me hooked on 3‑D printing, and second, because their delay in delivering the MK4 led me to buy a BL x1c.
Do you set your production capacity for the expected initial demand of a new product or the expected normal demand? Likely on initial order opening they get many multiples of what they expect normally for the waiting period.
As far as I can tell nothing very little has changed since their announcement and time-frames are pretty much what they said they would be - the issue is people assumed start shipping means all will be shipped. From the blog entry Introducing Prusa Core One
I know you’re curious to hear when the kits will become available because it may affect your business plans or purchasing decisions for the near future. So we did what we could to provide the best possible estimates. Still, please keep in mind that these are indeed estimates and they can change. For example, the shipping date of the assembly kits is heavily affected by the demand for the assembled version (since they both consume the same parts). With all of that said, our current estimation for assembly kits is April 2025, and the projected price is 949 USD (VAT excl.) / 1049 EUR (VAT incl.). We’ll keep you updated!
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In my business, I set production even according to my company’s actual capacity, not on the fact that I have thousands of fanboys ready to front the money months in advance. I don’t consider that ethically right, period. And when I talk about delays, I’m not referring to the Core One—you can just look at the continuous postponements of the Prusa XL and MK4. They could even ship mine in August for all I care… I’m really not chomping at the bit, because I’ve lost all interest in Prusa; to me, their printers increasingly feel like ends in themselves.
High demand and shipping delays are a reflection of that. If you don't see their value, or it's not worth the wait for you, that's ok, but don't assume the value isn't still there for thousands of others.
-J
Constant shipping delays, to me, are a sign of insufficient production capacity. They’re also the only ones who ask for money months in advance. Still, I’m grateful to them: first, because they got me hooked on 3‑D printing, and second, because their delay in delivering the MK4 led me to buy a BL x1c.
Do you set your production capacity for the expected initial demand of a new product or the expected normal demand? Likely on initial order opening they get many multiples of what they expect normally for the waiting period.
As far as I can tell nothing very little has changed since their announcement and time-frames are pretty much what they said they would be - the issue is people assumed start shipping means all will be shipped. From the blog entry Introducing Prusa Core One
I know you’re curious to hear when the kits will become available because it may affect your business plans or purchasing decisions for the near future. So we did what we could to provide the best possible estimates. Still, please keep in mind that these are indeed estimates and they can change. For example, the shipping date of the assembly kits is heavily affected by the demand for the assembled version (since they both consume the same parts). With all of that said, our current estimation for assembly kits is April 2025, and the projected price is 949 USD (VAT excl.) / 1049 EUR (VAT incl.). We’ll keep you updated!
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
In my business, I set production even according to my company’s actual capacity, not on the fact that I have thousands of fanboys ready to front the money months in advance. I don’t consider that ethically right, period. And when I talk about delays, I’m not referring to the Core One—you can just look at the continuous postponements of the Prusa XL and MK4. They could even ship mine in August for all I care… I’m really not chomping at the bit, because I’ve lost all interest in Prusa; to me, their printers increasingly feel like ends in themselves.
Seems a bit short sighted not to try matching capacity to somewhere on the supply and demand curve, often a company with demand higher than they can cope with would adjust prices upwards till they match them and because Prusa don't maybe one of the reasons people like them.
If you have lost interest why keep read the forums - because you are unlikely to change anything other your own irritation.
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
In my business, I set production even according to my company’s actual capacity, not on the fact that I have thousands of fanboys ready to front the money months in advance. I don’t consider that ethically right, period. And when I talk about delays, I’m not referring to the Core One—you can just look at the continuous postponements of the Prusa XL and MK4. They could even ship mine in August for all I care… I’m really not chomping at the bit, because I’ve lost all interest in Prusa; to me, their printers increasingly feel like ends in themselves.
Seems a bit short sighted not to try matching capacity to somewhere on the supply and demand curve, often a company with demand higher than they can cope with would adjust prices upwards till they match them and because Prusa don't maybe one of the reasons people like them.
If you have lost interest why keep read the forums - because you are unlikely to change anything other your own irritation.
Actually, I’m currently answering your questions 🙂 I also follow the forum because I'm always open to changing my mind (unlike many fanboys) and because I'm waiting to upgrade and sell something that was born outdated. The only shortsightedness I see is in your comments and your desire to tell others how to run their business. I don’t get paid months in advance while releasing unfinished products. I don’t find that ethically right. Period. Apologies to everyone for the off-topic.
RE: MK4S to Prusa CORE One Conversion kit Waiting list
Actually, I’m currently answering your questions 🙂 I also follow the forum because I'm always open to changing my mind (unlike many fanboys) and because I'm waiting to upgrade and sell something that was born outdated. The only shortsightedness I see is in your comments and your desire to tell others how to run their business. I don’t get paid months in advance while releasing unfinished products. I don’t find that ethically right. Period. Apologies to everyone for the off-topic.
I wasn't trying to tell you how to run your business - just pointing out what you said seems at variance with my economics education and knowledge suggests you should be doing - there is no point setting capacity and insufficient demand to match it, similarly insufficient capacity for demand is frustrating to customers (see various threads here), ramping up to meet a short term peak isn't always easy or sensible - it is difficult balancing act.
I am not sure your use of "fanboy" in what appears to be a derogatory manner says open minded.
No one's forcing anyone to put money down and they were pretty upfront about it was an estimate. Personally I'm happy to live with the delay, but if you aren't then I'd suggest don't order until delays are reasonable and teething problems resolved.