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ea69
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: CybrSage

I tried to edit the post for the size of the bottom, but it was already too late.  It is slightly over 90mm, not 80mm.  Here is a picture of the customizable_tush_brace.stl from Thingiverse.  It fits perfectly in the bottom of the Rubbermaid 21-cup container.

 

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I might be able to get down to 90mm. There is a significant slack in the cap and nut and small gains that can be made other places.

Will take a look at it today and see how it goes.

Do you need 65mm spool support, or would 60mm be enough? 

Opublikowany : 16/06/2019 12:42 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

60 should he good, but if it is no real effort. Make one of each to be sure.

Thanks!

Opublikowany : 16/06/2019 1:38 pm
ea69
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

cybrsage,

I have a design for 60mm  spools which is exactly 90mm wide and should fit into your Rubbermaid containers.

Are will willing to print a set and try them out if get .stl files to you?

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Opublikowany : 17/06/2019 3:05 am
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: greg.h8

cybrsage,

I have a design for 60mm  spools which is exactly 90mm wide and should fit into your Rubbermaid containers.

Are will willing to print a set and try them out if get .stl files to you?

Absolutely!

Opublikowany : 17/06/2019 6:39 am
ea69
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

cybrsage,

.stl files are here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3697106

please let me know how it goes.

Opublikowany : 17/06/2019 3:14 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: greg.h8

cybrsage,

.stl files are here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3697106

please let me know how it goes.

Thanks!  I have 3 hoours of a 17 hour print left, then I will slice and print the stand to see how well it fits.  If it is good, I will do the rest and let you know.

Opublikowany : 17/06/2019 7:32 pm
ea69
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

Posted a short video of my rewind solution in use. It shows a rewind to a mostly empty filament spool and a load from a mostly full spool. You can also see that there is no trouble rewinding the full spool thanks to the small rewind that occurs during the loading sequence.

This post was modified 6 years temu by ea69
Opublikowany : 18/06/2019 8:44 pm
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: 3dWatsch

Hey gnat!

I presented my buffer system at the Maker Fair Vienna this year and even Mikolas from Prusa showed up and interviewed me on my design 😀 
The system is airtight (well, almost), super easy to fill and does not add noticeable friction. It printed 2 days without a single problem at the Fair!

There is still some work to do but I'll put it on thingiverse as soon as I've finished. I can't comment on the reverse systems though.

Here is a sneek preview (starting at 3:30):

Any update maybe on your buffer design?  Is it on Thingiverse?

Opublikowany : 18/06/2019 9:24 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

I had a failed print if the stand, but it appears to fit nicely...enough printed for me to know that much.

Now to try again.

Opublikowany : 18/06/2019 10:39 pm
RAH1
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

Ikea Samla boxes come in many sizes.

Width: 15.25"/39cm

Depth: 11"/28cm

Height: 11"/28cm

Or you could make them fit the next bigger one: 22" x 17" x 16"

Worldwide convenience is all they offer over Rubbermaid/Sterlite etc,

 

 

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I am the inveterate tinkerer. I can tink up most anything.

Opublikowany : 19/06/2019 11:05 pm
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: robin.h9

Ikea Samla boxes come in many sizes.

Width: 15.25"/39cm

Depth: 11"/28cm

Height: 11"/28cm

Or you could make them fit the next bigger one: 22" x 17" x 16"

Worldwide convenience is all they offer over Rubbermaid/Sterlite etc,

 

 

It might even be better to make them as small as one spool.  Then you could arrange them as you wish.

I am the inveterate tinkerer. I can tink up most anything.

Opublikowany : 19/06/2019 11:08 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: robin.h9
Posted by: robin.h9

Ikea Samla boxes come in many sizes.

Width: 15.25"/39cm

Depth: 11"/28cm

Height: 11"/28cm

Or you could make them fit the next bigger one: 22" x 17" x 16"

Worldwide convenience is all they offer over Rubbermaid/Sterlite etc,

 

 

It might even be better to make them as small as one spool.  Then you could arrange them as you wish.

That is why I use the 21 cup Rubbermaid containers. 🙂  You can get them from Amazon.

Opublikowany : 19/06/2019 11:12 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

I have some problem where I cannot print at Point 3 layer height. I haven't cleaned my nozzle for some time, so there could be Gunk buildup inside it preventing proper flow.

 

I am not printing it point to layer height and should have the stand for that rewinder done soon.

Opublikowany : 19/06/2019 11:14 pm
ea69
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: robin.h9

Ikea Samla boxes come in many sizes.

Width: 15.25"/39cm

Depth: 11"/28cm

Height: 11"/28cm

Or you could make them fit the next bigger one: 22" x 17" x 16"

Worldwide convenience is all they offer over Rubbermaid/Sterlite etc,

 

 

The version which supports 65mm spools is 12.2cm wide. Three of them should easily fit in that box.

Opublikowany : 19/06/2019 11:27 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: greg.h8

Posted a short video of my rewind solution in use.

The bearing cap ends (for the roller) are too small, they easily fall out of the bearings when I press them in (which requires zero effort).  I am now printing them at 105% of their size to see if that makes them fit snugly.

Opublikowany : 20/06/2019 3:15 pm
ea69
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: CybrSage
Posted by: greg.h8

Posted a short video of my rewind solution in use.

The bearing cap ends (for the roller) are too small, they easily fall out of the bearings when I press them in (which requires zero effort).  I am now printing them at 105% of their size to see if that makes them fit snugly.

do you have a set of calipers? if yes, I would love to know the measurement of the printed part.

I am having fits with Simplify3D versus PrusaSlicer on tolerance for small (<8mm) parts. 

Opublikowany : 20/06/2019 3:21 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: greg.h8
Posted by: CybrSage
Posted by: greg.h8

Posted a short video of my rewind solution in use.

The bearing cap ends (for the roller) are too small, they easily fall out of the bearings when I press them in (which requires zero effort).  I am now printing them at 105% of their size to see if that makes them fit snugly.

do you have a set of calipers? if yes, I would love to know the measurement of the printed part.

I am having fits with Simplify3D versus PrusaSlicer on tolerance for small (<8mm) parts. 

I do not, but I do have a metal rule with mm on it.  I have attached a picture, but it is slightly under 8mm wide.  I printed that in PrusaSlic3r, but am printing the new ones in S3D, since S3D makes is VERY easy to adjust the size by each axis (I increased X and Y by 5%, left Z alone).  I am printing the new parts out now and will let you know in another 10 mins or so.

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Opublikowany : 20/06/2019 3:33 pm
ea69
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders
Posted by: CybrSage
Posted by: greg.h8
Posted by: CybrSage
Posted by: greg.h8

Posted a short video of my rewind solution in use.

The bearing cap ends (for the roller) are too small, they easily fall out of the bearings when I press them in (which requires zero effort).  I am now printing them at 105% of their size to see if that makes them fit snugly.

do you have a set of calipers? if yes, I would love to know the measurement of the printed part.

I am having fits with Simplify3D versus PrusaSlicer on tolerance for small (<8mm) parts. 

I do not, but I do have a metal rule with mm on it.  I have attached a picture, but it is slightly under 8mm wide.  I printed that in PrusaSlic3r, but am printing the new ones in S3D, since S3D makes is VERY easy to adjust the size by each axis (I increased X and Y by 5%, left Z alone).  I am printing the new parts out now and will let you know in another 10 mins or so.

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would be interested to know how the inserts come out when using S3D at nominal size (not 5% over) if you are willing to take the time to run the print again.

Opublikowany : 20/06/2019 3:41 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

Just printing the two parrts is about a 15 minute job, so no problem doing it.  The 105% job just finished and it is slightly too big, I could not force it into the bearing hole.  Doing the 100% with S3D now.

Opublikowany : 20/06/2019 3:50 pm
CybrSage
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RE: Buffers vs retracting spool holders

The print done using S3D at 100% (normal size) is the same size as the ones sliced by PrusaSlic3r, which are too small.  I am now printing them at 102%.

Opublikowany : 20/06/2019 4:23 pm
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