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Rusty Jones
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Upgrading my MK3S+, what to do first?

Upgrading my MK3S+, what to do first?

While I don't think it makes sense to do a full MK3S+ to 4 upgrade, as it costs almost as much as a new MK4 and i would rather have 2 complete printers for just a little more $$

So, where can I upgrade to get a little more out of the MK3S+? Specifically , faster printing. My understanding is that one of the limiting factors is the E3D V6 hot end, and that is maxed out at 15 mm^3 of filament. I think the Revo V6 has a little more flow, but will the mechanics of the MK3S+ keep up? I know it's not a Core-XY, but I hope I can squeeze a little more out of it...

So, where to start?

Thanks

Rusty

Napsal : 12/09/2023 7:22 pm
Diem
 Diem
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Speed versus quality and strength is the trade off - generally slower is better.  If you want a higher throughput buy a second machine.

Cheerio,

Napsal : 12/09/2023 11:06 pm
Artur5
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RE: Upgrading my MK3S+, what to do first?

You’re right Diem but, at the same time, I think that the MK3+ kinematics can give more than 15mm3/s. I don’t know about the Revo, but a Mosquito Magnum hotend can handle up to 30mm3/s with a 50W heater cartridge.

Of course, if you want to go really high ( say above 50mm3/s ), then the MK3S/+ or MK4 aren’t the right machines.

Napsal : 13/09/2023 8:47 am
Diem
 Diem
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Those high speeds are possibly OK for printing trinkets but not for anything functional.

Cheerio,

Napsal : 13/09/2023 10:15 am
Rusty Jones
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Upgrading my MK3S+, what to do first?

Can you explain? How far do you think the MK3 frame can be pushed?

Napsal : 13/09/2023 12:55 pm
Larry Tener
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RE: Upgrading my MK3S+, what to do first?

Look at a Mosquito hotend.

 

L.

Napsal : 22/09/2023 12:47 pm
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Walter Layher
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RE: Upgrading my MK3S+, what to do first?

You could also consider a Revo V6 with the 60W heater core together with the HF nozzles. Imho the Revo V6 ecosystem is a good upgrade for the MK3S+ in itself and it is supported by the firmware.

Napsal : 22/09/2023 12:57 pm
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Artur5
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RE:

I have the strong suspicion that a Revo hotend with a 60W heater would give trouble with Prusa’s new thermal model and latest firmware versions.  I’d stay with a 40W heater cartridge to be on the safe side.

A Mosquito hotend delivers up to 25mm3/s of filament (according to the manufacturer). It’s a great hotend, but really expensive and the conversion to a Mk3/S/+ isn’t as straightforward as with a Revo. It requires additional printed parts, so that makes it  more expensive,although IMHO the Mosquito it’s worth every cent. Easy nozzle changes (even in cold, if you use a plated copper nozzle) and definitively no more heat creep issues printing PLA in summer.

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Napsal : 23/09/2023 3:53 pm
Larry Tener
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RE: Upgrading my MK3S+, what to do first?

I have had excellent success with my Mosquito, and have put on in my Mini also. I don’t consider it expensive for the super service I have got from them.  I am now running a Diamond tipped nozzle and the combo gives great parts and production machine performance. 

 

L.

Napsal : 23/09/2023 4:07 pm
Walter Layher
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RE: Upgrading my MK3S+, what to do first?

Nothing against your suspicions, they are justified when you compare the history of user experiences with newer MK3 firmwares after v3.11. I have exchanged the 40W heater core in my Revo V6 with a 60W heater core a few weeks ago. I had seen that E3D themselves recommended the new firmware for this and gave it a try. So far everything went fine on the printer. I installed the firmware for the 60W variant, did a factory reset deleting all data and then performed the setup which went smoothly. I have not yet tried the HF nozzles or HF filament with it but "normal" printing went fine so far and had no thermal anomaly alarms.

Napsal : 23/09/2023 5:46 pm
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