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raylo
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Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

Looking online for precut plexi panels here in the US and not thrilled with what I am seeing on Amazon.  Also not thrilled with the idea of getting sheets from the box store and trying to make accurate cuts.  So, Printed Solid seems to be a more reliable option but all they have is V2.  Will that work for a non MMU Mk3S+?  Does using a V2 like that require any changes to filament feed or whatever?

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Postato : 01/08/2022 3:31 pm
hli
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RE: Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

I'm using a V2 without MMU. The interesting advantage is that it has a lid which can be opened. Its also a bit higher, allowing you to place a paver below the printer (together with some noise decoupling below the paver).
I'm not sure how prepared the Printer Solid panels are - you might want to use a different feed system (I'm feeding my filament from the top), but probably the 5 holes in the back do not matter that much.

Postato : 01/08/2022 4:15 pm
raylo
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RE: Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

Were you able to mount filament spools onto the lid?  Is there a native port to feed from the top or do you have to come up with something custom?  I really liek the idea of a liftable lid.

Postato : 01/08/2022 4:21 pm
hli
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RE: Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

I'm using these for the filament: https://www.printables.com/model/59647-spool-holder-base-for-locklock-hsm947-salad-bowl - they get just placed on top of the enclosure. Its the easiest way I have found to store the filament in a dry way while at the same timenot being in the way when changing the filament. Otherwise there are a ton of spool holders, most of them should work.

I'm using this https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2114888 as filament guide in the lid, just make the PTFE tube from the spools holder long enough to feed through.

Postato : 01/08/2022 6:25 pm
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raylo
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RE: Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

The only thing with that filament port is that it leaves a big opening that will vent fumes and leak warm air from the enclosure.  I would probably modify that or design a new one to be a snug fit for the ptfe feed tube.

Postato : 01/08/2022 6:32 pm
hli
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RE: Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

There are also smaller variations of these ports, some small enough for just the PTFE tube. I have printed ABS and ASA, and did not find this to be a problem - the Lack enclosure itself is not airtight anyways, and even the door will leak more air then this port..

Postato : 01/08/2022 6:56 pm
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I have all but one printer in V2 enclosures, except for my first Mini, for which I thought a V1 would be fine. Which it is, but the V2 just offers a lot more space to work in. You don't need to hollow out the lid, if you don't have an MMU. I find the opening lid to be a useless gimmick; to do any serious work on the printer you'll have to take it out anyway, and you might as well do it through the front door.

I feed filament from above, through the lid. I've tried many spool holders but ended up using these: https://www.printables.com/model/1804 (in fact, the smaller version here: https://www.printables.com/model/230403). Doesn't get any easier just plopping a spool in.  I route the filament through the lid with this conduit I designed: https://www.printables.com/model/51457 . I tried other approaches including the slit style linked to by @hli, but I couldn't handle the grating sound of the filament rubbing against the plastic of the conduit anymore. (Let's face the facts. The LACK is a cheap piece of crap, but it's a cheap piece of crap that does the job. It is a giant resonator, so any sound gets magnified.) With the conduit I designed, the filament gets routed through a small piece of PTFE, which makes it (almost) silent. And a paver stone below the printer takes care of other noises.

BTW, I'm also using these "Pocket Doors" https://www.printables.com/model/100422 . I mostly print PETG and don't need to close the door unless I do ASA or PC, and as far I can tell all enclosures on the market have doors that open out into the room and take up space. With these pocket doors, they just slide to the sides.

Postato : 01/08/2022 7:45 pm
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raylo
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RE: Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

Thanks for the tips, guys.  I saw and also really like the pocket door idea.  As for underlayment I was thinking some of those softish interlocking workshop "tiles".  I don't think they would be squishy or compressible enough to be a problem.  And should provide better sound insulation.

Or I might just say the heck with all this and get the official Prusa enclosure when it is ready.  Need to see some user reports first.

 

Postato : 01/08/2022 7:53 pm
fuchsr
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RE: Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

I was quite enthusiastic when they announced it but when I specced it out, I thought I don't think so. Maybe okay as a business write-off, otherwise overpriced. I don't necessarily mean overpriced relative to what you get, but for purpose. A Ferrari may well be worth every penny but it's more than what I need to get from A to B. 

Postato : 01/08/2022 8:53 pm
raylo
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RE: Functional difference between Lack enclosure V1 and V2, not using MMUS2?

Especially considering it'll likely be another $75-$100 USD for shipping to the states.

Posted by: @fuchsr . I don't necessarily mean overpriced relative to what you get, but for purpose.  

 

Postato : 01/08/2022 9:14 pm
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