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FerTech
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Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

Dear community, 

I have a very strange issue, I first tried this print with 5 and 10 pieces and everything was fine, but then I tried an overnight print (8 hours) and all the pieces seem to have melt on the bed! 

I am using the Prusament PLA profile but with Extrudr NX2 filament which has been working fine till now like this. 

Any ideas what could have gone wrong and how do I prevent this from happening again?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Posted : 17/12/2020 7:44 am
Swiss_Cheese
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RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

That's not melting, it's Layer shifting, possibly cause by one of the pieces on the bed coming loose and the nozzle or pinda struck it. I'm looking at the first image and it seems as though you might need to look at your first layer adjustment, the shift happened early on in the print, if your satisfied that your first layer is good then you may need to clean your bed for better adhesion. 

That's all I can gather from these images.

The Filament Whisperer

Posted : 17/12/2020 8:33 am
FerTech
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

@swiss_cheese

Thanks for your feedback, its quite strange this problem occured. Its the first time this ever happened. I am now finishing a print of 10 pieces without any issues. 

Posted : 17/12/2020 9:43 am
FerTech
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

Now that I know this is not called "Melting" but "Layer Shift" I can check all the stuff on this article: https://help.prusa3d.com/en/article/layer-shifting_2020

Thank you

Posted : 17/12/2020 9:48 am
FoxRun3D
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RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

Layer shifts -- not a matter of "if" but "when"...

Formerly known on this forum as @fuchsr -- until all hell broke loose with the forum software...

Posted : 17/12/2020 1:24 pm
Swiss_Cheese
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RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

your welcome, I hope it's an easy fix.

The Filament Whisperer

Posted : 17/12/2020 9:10 pm
FerTech
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

@swiss_cheese

To be honest, I dont know what to fix, because every other print and everything seems to be working fine :/ 
Something to do maybe with the amount of pieces I placed on the table? Or maybe just bad luck? 

Posted : 17/12/2020 9:12 pm
Peter M
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RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

Check belts, check grub screw.

Check the whole printer for loose bolts etc.

You could have this because of warping, or filament sticks out of model(higher), then nozzle will hit model and layer shift could hapen.

Your first layer is possible to high, print a few cubes, and lower in steps the first layer calibration9live z adjustment).

 

Maintenance is also important, clean rods and put oil on rods.

Very important for printing is:

1. Clean bed, clean with dish soap.

3. First layer calibration needs to be 100%

Both settings are needed to get good sticking, and to have less problems higher up in the model.

 

This post was modified 4 years ago by Peter M
Posted : 17/12/2020 9:30 pm
FerTech
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

@peter-m-3

Yup, all seems to be good and I have very good first layer and very good adhesion, what I tried today is to add more lubricant and did some calibration and belt tests to ensure everything is ok. Any other print works fine, so maybe was just bad luck :/ let’s see will try again a long print and see what happens 😉 thank you! 

Posted : 17/12/2020 9:37 pm
FoxRun3D
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RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

@fernando-scheps

I'd cut the number of objects down. My printer seems to know when I fill the print plate and creates layer shifts only then... Go figure.

Formerly known on this forum as @fuchsr -- until all hell broke loose with the forum software...

Posted : 17/12/2020 9:49 pm
Swiss_Cheese
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RE: Pieces melted on bed in overnight print

so there again I was solely going by your images, the edges of our sheets get touched A Lot and they tend to need to be very clean (I mean really clean) when doing a full sheet print as you attempted, to reasons for this are (1) finger prints oils from our own hands (2) the sheet isn't as hot out the outer edges, hence less adhesion, if even one edge curls or one piece shifts it has the potential ruin the entire plate. your images to me look like you suffered from these two things, I don't know the qualities of the PLA you listed either, but bad or poor quality PLA can also add to this effect.

it's just my advice based on the evidence at hand and my experience, I do know that the more of this you go through, the more you will learn, and the less it will happen to you.

Good luck and have fun  : )

The Filament Whisperer

Posted : 17/12/2020 10:08 pm
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