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This post is more of a moment of empathy with fellow users.  I started at least 8-10 prints in the last several days and each time if failed between the first layer and the third.  I redid my first layer calibration and XYZ calibration again and again.  It still failed.  

Frustrated to no end, I finally looked the slicer.  The problem was not the printer.  It was the fact that I printing PETG with PLA settings.  DOAH!

User error is a huge problem with getting a good quality print.  

 

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Chuck H
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Opublikowany : 27/09/2019 3:05 pm
Sembazuru
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Lol. I have to laugh because I did the exact same thing when printing the Yet ANOTHER Machine Vise on Thingiverse.

I was first having bed adhesion issues (odd to experience printing PETG on the smooth PEI sheet), and after adding an unreasonable amount of brim I had a part snap in half (along layer lines) wile removing it from the print bed.

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Opublikowany : 27/09/2019 3:15 pm
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Topic starter answered:
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Einstein: “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.”    I remember that quote.  

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Chuck H
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Opublikowany : 27/09/2019 3:21 pm
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Posted by: @sembazuru

Lol. I have to laugh because I did the exact same thing when printing the Yet ANOTHER Machine Vise on Thingiverse.

I was first having bed adhesion issues (odd to experience printing PETG on the smooth PEI sheet), and after adding an unreasonable amount of brim I had a part snap in half (along layer lines) wile removing it from the print bed.

Bah. I really did not need another print project.

Off I go - to print a machine vise...

Opublikowany : 27/09/2019 4:25 pm
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Posted by: @robert-rmm200
Posted by: @sembazuru

Lol. I have to laugh because I did the exact same thing when printing the Yet ANOTHER Machine Vise on Thingiverse.

I was first having bed adhesion issues (odd to experience printing PETG on the smooth PEI sheet), and after adding an unreasonable amount of brim I had a part snap in half (along layer lines) wile removing it from the print bed.

Bah. I really did not need another print project.

Off I go - to print a machine vise...

Me either, but that was just added to my build list.  

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Chuck H
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Opublikowany : 27/09/2019 7:07 pm
cwbullet
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Any other fails out there?   

 

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Chuck H
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Opublikowany : 28/09/2019 10:19 pm
bobstro
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A friend of mine knows a guy that sometimes forgets what nozzle size is mounted. Allegedly.

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Opublikowany : 29/09/2019 1:57 am
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Forgets that alcohol is simply not suitable for cleaning his PEI sheet and continues to try the same thing with the same results in what appears to be an endless loop.

Opublikowany : 29/09/2019 7:15 pm
cwbullet
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Posted by: @tim-m30

Forgets that alcohol is simply not suitable for cleaning his PEI sheet and continues to try the same thing with the same results in what appears to be an endless loop.

Why is alcohol not suitable?  It works for me.  

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Opublikowany : 29/09/2019 7:28 pm
bobstro
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Posted by: @charles-h13

Why is alcohol not suitable?  It works for me.  

Lots of variation in how much is used, how it's applied and how it's wiped up. I get by with a good squirt of 91% isopropyl alcohol between prints, but don't hesitate to give it the Dawn Dunk frequently. Not touching the blasted PEI is the biggest trick in my experience. It's amazing how many times you can touch it without thinking. I always forget and rest my arm on it when swapping nozzles.

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He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan

Opublikowany : 29/09/2019 8:10 pm
bobstro
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I suppose "not keeping notes" or "not marking prints" is a good one. More than once, I've heard of people spending a lot of time doing comparison prints, then mix them up and been unable to tell which print was done with which settings. Lots of fun on multi-hour prints. Quitting the slicer without saving the settings is another dumb thing I've been told some people do frequently.

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing

and miscellaneous other tech projects
He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan

Opublikowany : 29/09/2019 8:13 pm
cwbullet
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Posted by: @bobstro

I suppose "not keeping notes" or "not marking prints" is a good one. More than once, I've heard of people spending a lot of time doing comparison prints, then mix them up and been unable to tell which print was done with which settings. Lots of fun on multi-hour prints. Quitting the slicer without saving the settings is another dumb thing I've been told some people do frequently.

I have also made this mistake.  

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Chuck H
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Opublikowany : 29/09/2019 8:20 pm
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Yeah - the save prompt at the end of every slice is annoying and leads to the dismiss hell of forgetting you really wanted to save that table. But that's my UI gripe rather than a user fail. 

Losing track of hours on the printer because of eeprom data resets is a gripe and a fail, since the attentive user would have written it down before the reset.  Was that last set of bearings dead in only 400 hours? Or did I forget a firmware update in there somewhere?

 

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