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bolsoncerrado
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Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?

Even if it's just for SINGLE FILAMENT mode?

Ideally 4 MM profile, but ANYTHING is welcome! 😉

ThankS!

Postato : 19/09/2017 3:25 pm
bolsoncerrado
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?

Nothing? Nada? Niente? Rien?

😥

Postato : 22/09/2017 11:04 pm
JoanTabb
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Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?

I haven't used S3d much since I got the MMU, I use Kiss and Slic3r.

regards Joan

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Postato : 23/09/2017 12:47 am
PJR
 PJR
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Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?


Nothing? Nada? Niente? Rien?

😥

OK, for single filament printing, it should simply be a matter of replicating the start and end G-code from a Slic3r slice.

For multiple filament printing... Well, I have written a post-processor for KISS. I have also looked at S3D G-code after having been asked to create a post-processor for S3D. What I saw was horrendous/nonsensical G-Code; I simply wasn't prepared to invest the huge amount of time required to untangle it - if it would have been possible. The only solution would be to find a programmer who has that time. Or move to a decent slicer (Slic3r or KISS).

Peter

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Postato : 23/09/2017 10:06 pm
Laird Popkin
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Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?

Rather than writing a post-processor, which seems like it would be fragile/difficult is the Goode required for MMU to work be configured into S3D’s code generation (e.g. Level change, etc.).

Postato : 26/09/2017 4:54 am
PJR
 PJR
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Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?


Rather than writing a post-processor, which seems like it would be fragile/difficult is the Goode required for MMU to work be configured into S3D’s code generation (e.g. Level change, etc.).

I thought about that almost a year ago. Then I realised it's not that simple, hence the post-processor.

Peter

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Postato : 26/09/2017 9:31 am
richard.l
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Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?


Rather than writing a post-processor, which seems like it would be fragile/difficult is the Goode required for MMU to work be configured into S3D’s code generation (e.g. Level change, etc.).

A post processor either needs to be incorporated in the slicer, i.e. Slic3r PE, or a separate post processor needs to be written for the slicer like Peter has done for KISS. The waste tower has to be large enough to handle the max number of filament changes on any given layer in the print, plus on those layers where there is no filament change the waste tower only needs minimal infill and doing this based just on layer change would be impossible.

Postato : 26/09/2017 7:56 pm
PJR
 PJR
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Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?


A post processor either needs to be incorporated in the slicer, i.e. Slic3r PE, or a separate post processor needs to be written for the slicer like Peter has done for KISS. The waste tower has to be large enough to handle the max number of filament changes on any given layer in the print, plus on those layers where there is no filament change the waste tower only needs minimal infill and doing this based just on layer change would be impossible.

It's actually a lot more difficult than this. Location of tower, layer height and purging volumes all add to the complexity. Plus the layer before a layer change, the sparse infill needs to be semi-sparse. Then there's getting the speeds correct for each material type. And a few other things.

Peter

Please note: I do not have any affiliation with Prusa Research. Any advices given are offered in good faith. It is your responsibility to ensure that by following my advice you do not suffer or cause injury, damage…

Postato : 26/09/2017 8:05 pm
richard.l
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Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?



A post processor either needs to be incorporated in the slicer, i.e. Slic3r PE, or a separate post processor needs to be written for the slicer like Peter has done for KISS. The waste tower has to be large enough to handle the max number of filament changes on any given layer in the print, plus on those layers where there is no filament change the waste tower only needs minimal infill and doing this based just on layer change would be impossible.

It's actually a lot more difficult than this. Location of tower, layer height and purging volumes all add to the complexity. Plus the layer before a layer change, the sparse infill needs to be semi-sparse. Then there's getting the speeds correct for each material type. And a few other things.

Peter

Absolutely. I was just giving the shortened, easy to understand version. 😀

Postato : 27/09/2017 6:43 pm
Laird Popkin
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Re: Simplify3D Multimaterial PROFILE anyone?

Thanks for the explanations, guys. Makes sense.

Postato : 28/10/2017 4:36 am
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