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fernandotg81
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Multicolor in MK4

Hello, do you know, is there a multicolor printing system compatible with the MK4 today or do we just have to wait for the MMU3 to come out?

Posted : 05/12/2023 7:43 pm
Renze
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

Unfortunately we have to wait for MMU3  it looks promising though when looking atlast weekend’s live podcast

(at 54 minutes. In the end)

Posted by: @fernandotg81

Hello, do you know, is there a multicolor printing system compatible with the MK4 today or do we just have to wait for the MMU3 to come out?

 

Posted : 05/12/2023 10:16 pm
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fernandotg81
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

Hello,Thanks for the answer, my question was mainly about whether someone had used Mosaic Palette or some other system with the MK4.

Posted by: @renze

Unfortunately we have to wait for MMU3  it looks promising though when looking atlast weekend’s live podcast

(at 54 minutes. In the end)

Posted by: @fernandotg81

Hello, do you know, is there a multicolor printing system compatible with the MK4 today or do we just have to wait for the MMU3 to come out?

 

 

Posted : 07/12/2023 11:31 am
Zappes
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

This really makes me want that MMU3. I will wait until people post their experiences, but I can't imagine that I'll be able to resist.

Posted by: @renze

Unfortunately we have to wait for MMU3  it looks promising though when looking atlast weekend’s live podcast

(at 54 minutes. In the end)

 

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Posted : 07/12/2023 1:39 pm
Brew
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

 

Posted by: @renze

Unfortunately we have to wait for MMU3  it looks promising though when looking atlast weekend’s live podcast

(at 54 minutes. In the end)

Posted by: @fernandotg81

Hello, do you know, is there a multicolor printing system compatible with the MK4 today or do we just have to wait for the MMU3 to come out?

 

I'm not sure promising would be the word I would use. But I'm definitely hopeful that we will see it soon. 

Posted : 07/12/2023 4:09 pm
Renze
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

I'm not sure promising would be the word I would use. But I'm definitely hopeful that we will see it soon. 

I'm curious about your thoughts…

Posted : 07/12/2023 4:44 pm
Brew
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My thinking is that the MMU3 has been working successfully on the MK4 for some time now. It wasn't until the ambient temperature of the operating environment increased that problems showed up. So for me, showing it working at the show doesn't necessarily mean the issues have been rectified. Thus, I don't see this as any different then the original delay notice stating they might have it figured out and just needed more trials to collect more data points to ensure it's working properly. 

But that being said. I sure do hope it's going to be ready soon!

Posted : 07/12/2023 4:57 pm
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NathanWms
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

Take a look at the 3D Chameleon. 

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Posted by: @fernandotg81

Hello, do you know, is there a multicolor printing system compatible with the MK4 today or do we just have to wait for the MMU3 to come out?

 

Posted : 07/12/2023 11:04 pm
K7ZPJ
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

 

Posted by: @fernandotg81

Hello, do you know, is there a multicolor printing system compatible with the MK4 today or do we just have to wait for the MMU3 to come out?

I have been using a Palette 3 Pro with my MK4 without any issues.

I use P2PP so that I can use PrusaSlicer.   However you can use Canvas to slice if you update the starting G-code for the MK4.

 

Posted : 08/12/2023 12:35 am
Witties
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

 

Posted by: @k7zpj

 

Posted by: @fernandotg81

Hello, do you know, is there a multicolor printing system compatible with the MK4 today or do we just have to wait for the MMU3 to come out?

I have been using a Palette 3 Pro with my MK4 without any issues.

I use P2PP so that I can use PrusaSlicer.   However you can use Canvas to slice if you update the starting G-code for the MK4.

 

HI, does the palette 3 pro keep up with the speed (input shaper} from the MK4?

Posted : 09/12/2023 10:02 am
K7ZPJ
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

 

 

Posted by: @witties

HI, does the palette 3 pro keep up with the speed (input shaper} from the MK4?

The palette 3 pro hardware is capable of keeping up with input shaper  filament speeds.

However, The software to support input shaper is still a work in progress. 

Posted : 09/12/2023 7:25 pm
Tecd0c
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Posted by: @k7zpj

 

Posted by: @fernandotg81

Hello, do you know, is there a multicolor printing system compatible with the MK4 today or do we just have to wait for the MMU3 to come out?

I have been using a Palette 3 Pro with my MK4 without any issues.

I use P2PP so that I can use PrusaSlicer.   However you can use Canvas to slice if you update the starting G-code for the MK4.

 

@k7zpj
Can you point me to where I can find the settings for Canvas for the MK4.
I have both the Palette 2S Pro, and Palette 3 Pro.
But I seem not be able to find anything for the MK4.

Posted : 14/12/2023 11:31 pm
Zwirbel
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

I have been using Palette 2S with the MK4 without issues (in accessory mode) using Canvas.

Posted : 16/12/2023 5:02 pm
Tecd0c
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

This does not really answer my question...

I used a file that I created for my Palette 2S Pro earlyer as I still had the MK3S+ and just run it from Octoprint and it worked on my MK4.
But I'm looking for "proper" settings for Canvas. As Mosaic does not support the MK4 for a reason I cannot follow.

 

Posted : 16/12/2023 5:15 pm
Tecd0c
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

My new created profile for P2PP and MK4 with Palette2S Pro in Prusaslicer has the result, that printing from Octoprint starts, but at a color change the MK4 unloads the filament?! 

Posted : 17/12/2023 2:21 am
JoanTabb
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

Could the splice be causing the filament sensor on the mk4, to sense filament out? 

Might be worth disabling the filament sensor for Palette  prints

 

Regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 17/12/2023 9:28 am
Tecd0c
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

Hello Joan, 

unfortunately this seems not the case.

I tested some more. The successful print was made with Canvas. And the printer profile is stock MK3S provided from Mosaic.

In Canvas you can choose what slicer you want to use. The Kiss Slicer or PrusaSlicer.

The Kiss Slicer version just printed fine. Although it is sliced for the wrong (MK3S) printer.

And this even worked well in connected mode, this is using a OctoPi based Hub (mine is selfmade).

The same object also scliced in Canvas and using the profile of a MK3S but with Prusa Slicer did not work.

The printing begins, and at the first color swap, the printer does unload the filament.MK4 and Palette2s Pro

Posted : 17/12/2023 8:39 pm
JoanTabb
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

Cheers, 
Hopefully someone else can help. My palette 2S pro is 60 miles away... so I can't try it at the moment

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 17/12/2023 10:23 pm
Tecd0c
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

Thank you for your efforts Joan!

Posted : 17/12/2023 10:33 pm
K7ZPJ
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RE: Multicolor in MK4

 

Posted by: @tecd0c

This does not really answer my question...

I used a file that I created for my Palette 2S Pro earlyer as I still had the MK3S+ and just run it from Octoprint and it worked on my MK4.
But I'm looking for "proper" settings for Canvas. As Mosaic does not support the MK4 for a reason I cannot follow.

 

For Canvas, Use the MK3S profile with the KISS slicer.     The MK3S profile is the same as the MK4 except the MK4 has a little extra z height.   You can edit the profile to change the Z height if you want to.     There is an article about the MK4 and not having a MK4 profile for it.  The last post has a starting point for the starting G-code you can use.  Here is the link: Mosaic Palette 3 pro: Prusa mk4 profile

Posted by: @tecd0c

My new created profile for P2PP and MK4 with Palette2S Pro in Prusaslicer has the result, that printing from Octoprint starts, but at a color change the MK4 unloads the filament?!

What version of PrusaSlicer are you using?

I am seeing the same problem with P2PP/ PrusaSlicer after upgrading to PrusaSlicer 2.70.

It might be worth trying to down grade to the 2.6 version to see if that fixes it.

My printers are all in use trying to print as many Reindeer as possible before December 21 so I can't test that until after the 21st.

Don't ask.  Bailing out someone who sold way more reindeer than they could print.

Posted : 18/12/2023 12:41 am
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