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ShakataGaNai
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What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

4 days ago the Mk4 came in, less than 20 mn after it arrived the machine was printing. Basically went full send and everything has come out great. Printed this planter for my wife which took about 30 hours - no issues. After a few more different jobs I swapped the default 0.4mm nozzle out for a 0.8mm and printed a benchy at 0.55mm layer height. Came out good, not perfect, but good. But after another day, things have totally gone to heck. I wasn't sure if it was the models or something else so I printed a new benchy tonight and it's absolute trash.

Photo Album

  • Left - Prusament Recycled PETG. 0.4n printed at 0.2mm.
  • Middle - Prusament PLA. 0.8n printed at 0.55mm.
  • Right - Prusament Recycled PETG. 0.8n printed at 0.4mm.

First and last is the same BRAND NEW Recycled PETG just a few days apart. 

Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 3:05 am
Hello
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RE: What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

I wouldn't use recycled petg as test try use normal petg

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Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 3:12 am
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ShakataGaNai
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RE: What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

ok, so I'll admit I thought that was a silly suggestion but I tried it. I switched to Prusament PLA Galaxy Black and printed with the same layer size as the previous. The results speak for themself, worked just fine.

So the question is... does recycled Prusament suck? It printed fine for 2 days then... went to shit? I'm maybe 100grams into a 2kg roll.

Left to right

  • #1 - Prusament Recycled PETG. 0.4n printed at 0.2mm.
  • #2 - Prusament PLA. 0.8n printed at 0.55mm.
  • #3 - Prusament Recycled PETG. 0.8n printed at 0.4mm.
  • #4 - Prusament PLA. 0.8n printed at 0.4mm

Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 4:25 am
René
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RE: What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

I don't think it's because of the Recycled petg.

After all, Boat #1 looks fine.

But as soon as you change to the .8 nozzle it goes wrong.

So it could be that the .8 nozzle is flawed.

What you also can try is drying the filament.

 

Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 5:20 am
Hello
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RE: What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

it could be that the mixture isint right in the fillament due to it being recycled id say thats what it is personally

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Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 5:24 am
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RE: What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

Contact prusa through live chat because number 1 they might be able to tell you if there is somthing wrong in the mixture of the fillament this has happend to me before and they gave me another spool or like rene said it could be somthing diffrent prusa support might be able to point you in the right direction

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Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 5:27 am
René
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RE:

 

Posted by: @hello

it could be that the mixture isint right in the fillament due to it being recycled id say thats what it is personally

But boat #1 is printed with that material and looks good.

Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 5:29 am
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RE: What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

im wondering if shakata got it wrong because that looks exactly like pla galaxy black and not rycycled fillament

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Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 6:03 am
iftibashir
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RE: What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

Agree with this - I think its something to do with the 0.8 nozzle....

Posted by: @rene-3

I don't think it's because of the Recycled petg.

After all, Boat #1 looks fine.

But as soon as you change to the .8 nozzle it goes wrong.

So it could be that the .8 nozzle is flawed.

What you also can try is drying the filament.

 

 

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Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 10:43 am
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Diem
 Diem
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Dry your filaments; plenty of threads on here.

Cheerio,

Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 2:46 pm
ShakataGaNai
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Topic starter answered:
RE: What has gone wrong? Quality gone to heck after 4 days

 

Posted by: @hello

im wondering if shakata got it wrong because that looks exactly like pla galaxy black and not rycycled fillament

Nope. It's the increased light so you can make out any details. In my last set of pictures posted you can see galaxy black in the #4 slot. I got them right because Galaxy black PLA is on a 1kg spool and the PETG is on a 2kg Spool.

Posted by: @diem

Dry your filaments; plenty of threads on here.

Cheerio,

I understand filament drying. But this is brand new, just unsealed direct from Prusa HQ 4 days ago. Also it printed perfectly 3 days ago, I've never heard of filament that expires that quickly. Is that a thing? Filament good for only 48 hours, like the oldFlexplay DVD's?

 

Posted by: @rene-3

I don't think it's because of the Recycled petg.

After all, Boat #1 looks fine.

But as soon as you change to the .8 nozzle it goes wrong.

So it could be that the .8 nozzle is flawed.

What you also can try is drying the filament.

 

All but #1 were printed on the .8n, so #2 and #4 in the PLA came out just fine. Though I think I'm going to try swapping back and seeing if its maybe some combination of the .8 AND the PETG together.  I also Amazon'd an OVERTURE PETG (which had decent reviews) to see if that prints better/worse as well.

And to those that suggested it, if it turns out that yes, the first 100g of the PETG was fine and now it's not - I will contact Prusa support. Thank you for all your suggestions!

 

Opublikowany : 12/06/2023 3:15 pm
Diem
 Diem
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In a humid atmosphere PETG can absorb enough moisture to degrade print quality in a day.  Long prints can start out clean and be stringing before they finish.

Dry it before taking any other steps.

Cheerio,

Opublikowany : 13/06/2023 7:57 am
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