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Dawson
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vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

Every vase I open in prusaslicer 2.6.1 has a printed top? If I switch to vase mode it doesn't but I want to print something sturdy. Why is it doing this? I can't find a setting to change it. If I set infill to 0% the top is still on the vase.

What am I missing here? I haven't printed a lot of vases but I have never had  a problem like this before.

Posted : 22/09/2023 10:48 am
Neophyl
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RE: vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

Vase mode in all versions don’t have tops. By definition a vase doesn’t.  They have bottom layers and a single perimeter layer, that’s it. Add a solid cube and it won’t have a top. Models must be solid volumes to slice in vase mode anyway so the ‘top’ on the model will be filled in but it will never print. 
You can’t use infill and can only have a single unbroken perimeter. If you want it more sturdy then increase the extrusion width. It’s quite possible for a o.4 mm nozzle to print a .6 or even .8 extrusion for a vase. 

Posted : 22/09/2023 11:53 am
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Dawson
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Topic starter answered:
RE: vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

I understand what you're saying about printing in vase mode but I'm not trying to print in vace mode, I'm printing in normal mode so that I can make the walls of the vase thicker (3 perimeters), which I have done before in previous versions of Prussa slicer with no problem, when I open any vase STL file in prusa slicer it displays the model with a top on it even when I turn infill down to zero percent,  I printed one and it printed with a top on it so it's just a closed cylinder with pretty sides.

 

Are you saying a vase can't be printed in the normal printing mode, it has to be in vase mode? 

Posted : 22/09/2023 12:52 pm
Walter Layher
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RE: vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

Just print with 0 top layers, you can check what will happen in PrusaSlicer preview without wasting filament and time.

Posted : 22/09/2023 1:00 pm
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Dawson
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RE: vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

I'll definitely try that, Thanks for the suggestion!, I still like to know why  vases are opening in prusa slicer with a top on them though, I don't know if it's a bug or if I'm doing something wrong although I'm not doing anything different than I've ever done. this is all on the default settings that prusa slicer comes with and I have printed vases before not in vase mode and didn't have a problem like this.

Posted : 22/09/2023 2:52 pm
Walter Layher
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RE: vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

It depends if you look at them in editor view or in preview mode. In the former the top is closed, the latter shows the model how it will be printed. Vases are always shown with a closed top in editor mode, it has always been that way since I have been using PrusaSlicer (a few years now).

Posted : 22/09/2023 2:56 pm
Dawson
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Topic starter answered:
RE:

???  

Why?

The model doesn't have a top on it, Prusaslicer is adding that, why? Is there something special about a "vase" stl that makes prusaslicer add a top to it if you don't switch to vase mode? It doesn't make any sense?If I go make a cup in tinkercad and open it in prusaslicer to print the program doesn't add a top to the cup?It opens it the way I designed it, with no top. Whats the difference between a cup and a vase as far as prusaslicer is concerned?

The only way any vase I open in prusaslicer shows no top is if I switch to "vase" mode. Otherwise there is a top added to the vase in every view including the sliced file and it prints with a top if I go ahead and print it.  Also, it fills the vase with infill if I don't change that to 0%, but it still has the top.

 

What am I not understanding about this?

This post was modified 1 year ago by Dawson
Posted : 22/09/2023 9:08 pm
Neophyl
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RE: vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

Please post an example project that shows the issue you seem to be having. File>save project as from PRUSA slicer. That will save a 3mf file. The 3mf from PS co trains the model and all the settings you are using. Then importantly zip it up and attach it to a post here. It must be zipped or the forum won’t except it. 
We don’t even have a picture of what you are describing so it’s hard to give a valid answer but the project is the best way.

 

Posted : 22/09/2023 9:20 pm
Walter Layher
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RE: vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

The body created in CAD for a vase model does not have a wall thickness specified and is not hollowed out. It is a solid body with an even top face. When you specify "vase mode" the slicer puts in 4 bottom layers (default) and 1 perimeter. It leaves off the top face by using 0 top layers and uses 0 infill. You contol the wall thickness for the 1 perimeter by choosing your nozzle size and the extrusion width for outer perimeters.

Posted : 22/09/2023 9:38 pm
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Dawson
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Topic starter answered:
RE: vases have a top in 2.6.1 ?

 

Posted by: @walter-layher

The body created in CAD for a vase model does not have a wall thickness specified and is not hollowed out. It is a solid body with an even top face. When you specify "vase mode" the slicer puts in 4 bottom layers (default) and 1 perimeter. It leaves off the top face by using 0 top layers and uses 0 infill. You contol the wall thickness for the 1 perimeter by choosing your nozzle size and the extrusion width for outer perimeters.

 

Thanks!

That makes sense now, I knew there was something I wasn't understanding but I wasn't finding any answers in searches.

 

Posted : 22/09/2023 10:14 pm
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