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3DPC
 3DPC
(@3dpc-2)
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Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

The reason why there is a thermal runaway problem when changing nozzles is clear - introducing cold tools/ nozzle to a hot block will cause a sudden drop in temperature. But it's frustrating and didn't happen prior to release 2.6.0 - at least not to me. Can something be tweaked so that thermal runaway when NOT printing has a greater tolerance than during printing?

Publié : 09/08/2023 4:01 pm
Neophyl
(@neophyl)
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

It has nothing to do with the slicer.  Is has everything to do with the printer firmware.  

Publié : 09/08/2023 4:07 pm
3DPC
 3DPC
(@3dpc-2)
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Topic starter answered:
RE:

@neophyl Yes, I think you are correct. I updated the firmware at the same time as the slicer update, and it makes sense that the firmware is the 'cause' of the problem. Are there any workarounds?

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Publié : 09/08/2023 4:26 pm
Neophyl
(@neophyl)
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

Downgrade the firmware is about the only option.

Publié : 09/08/2023 4:27 pm
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Neophyl
(@neophyl)
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

btw theres an open request for a firmware change for this https://github.com/prusa3d/Prusa-Firmware/issues/4189   

Publié : 09/08/2023 4:36 pm
FoxRun3D
(@foxrun3d)
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RE:

You can also use the new option in the hardware menu for nozzle changes. It disables the TM during a nozzle swap. 

edit: Hardware menu on the LCD screen. 

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Publié : 09/08/2023 4:39 pm
Neophyl
(@neophyl)
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

Thanks fuchsr.  I'm not running any of the new firmware on mine.  Given all the troubles its gone through and that I don't need any of the new stuff I just couldn't see a reason to install something so buggy.  I'm sticking with what works.   I'm glad you are keeping up with it and testing it for us though 🙂

Publié : 09/08/2023 4:45 pm
FoxRun3D
(@foxrun3d)
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

This new thermal model has been a bizarre experience. No issues on Mk4 and XL, so far. On my minis, both having dragon hotends and TC nozzles, one is fine, the other I can't start without getting a TM error but if I preheat to 180 and then load filament it'll print with no issues until I shut it down, regardless of how often I let it cool down and heat up again. My MK3s both are fine, despite having Dragon hotends and TC nozzles.

From all the problem reports, I don't know, something just feels fundamentally broken with their thermal model implementation. While I applaud their effort to add more safety features, how many Prusas have gone up in flames? But clearly a lot of of perfectly fine working printers have become unusable (or require downgrading the firmware). 

Formerly known on this forum as @fuchsr -- until all hell broke loose with the forum software...

Publié : 09/08/2023 4:59 pm
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