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3DPC
 3DPC
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Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

The reason why there is a thermal runaway problem when changing nozzles is clear - introducing cold tools/ nozzle to a hot block will cause a sudden drop in temperature. But it's frustrating and didn't happen prior to release 2.6.0 - at least not to me. Can something be tweaked so that thermal runaway when NOT printing has a greater tolerance than during printing?

Posted : 09/08/2023 4:01 pm
Neophyl
(@neophyl)
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

It has nothing to do with the slicer.  Is has everything to do with the printer firmware.  

Posted : 09/08/2023 4:07 pm
3DPC
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Topic starter answered:
RE:

@neophyl Yes, I think you are correct. I updated the firmware at the same time as the slicer update, and it makes sense that the firmware is the 'cause' of the problem. Are there any workarounds?

This post was modified 1 year ago by 3DPC
Posted : 09/08/2023 4:26 pm
Neophyl
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

Downgrade the firmware is about the only option.

Posted : 09/08/2023 4:27 pm
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Neophyl
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

btw theres an open request for a firmware change for this https://github.com/prusa3d/Prusa-Firmware/issues/4189   

Posted : 09/08/2023 4:36 pm
FoxRun3D
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RE:

You can also use the new option in the hardware menu for nozzle changes. It disables the TM during a nozzle swap. 

edit: Hardware menu on the LCD screen. 

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Formerly known on this forum as @fuchsr -- until all hell broke loose with the forum software...

Posted : 09/08/2023 4:39 pm
Neophyl
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

Thanks fuchsr.  I'm not running any of the new firmware on mine.  Given all the troubles its gone through and that I don't need any of the new stuff I just couldn't see a reason to install something so buggy.  I'm sticking with what works.   I'm glad you are keeping up with it and testing it for us though 🙂

Posted : 09/08/2023 4:45 pm
FoxRun3D
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RE: Thermal ruaway when changing nozzle

This new thermal model has been a bizarre experience. No issues on Mk4 and XL, so far. On my minis, both having dragon hotends and TC nozzles, one is fine, the other I can't start without getting a TM error but if I preheat to 180 and then load filament it'll print with no issues until I shut it down, regardless of how often I let it cool down and heat up again. My MK3s both are fine, despite having Dragon hotends and TC nozzles.

From all the problem reports, I don't know, something just feels fundamentally broken with their thermal model implementation. While I applaud their effort to add more safety features, how many Prusas have gone up in flames? But clearly a lot of of perfectly fine working printers have become unusable (or require downgrading the firmware). 

Formerly known on this forum as @fuchsr -- until all hell broke loose with the forum software...

Posted : 09/08/2023 4:59 pm
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