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Michael2023
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How to get dimensions right on single perimeter parts

I am trying to print a small part, which has a cylindrical wall, which is supposed to be only one perimeter thick

By design, the part has inside diameter 2,7 mm and outside dia. 3.5 mm

The resulting print has inside 2.3 and ouside 3.3 mm, which makes not much sense to me.

How can I better control the dimensions of such parts.

I am using a mk3s printer.

Thanks a lot,

Michael

Posted : 24/02/2024 10:05 pm
Diem
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Your outer diameter is accurate to ¼ of an extrusion width and the inner to ½ which is pretty good for an extruded line.

(3.5-2.7)/2 =  0.4mm  wall thickness.   The default extrusion width with a 0.4mm nozzle is 0.45mm so you might want to redesign, especially as reduced extrusions will be weaker.  Yes, there are ways to tune the extrusion but with such small parts and tolerances it will not be easy and is unlikely to be satisfactory.

Which CAD software are you using?

Most CAD calculates points on the midline of a curve and then connects the dots when converting to STL - so all curves are in fact a series of chords and will always reduce towards the concave side.  As a first approximation of a multi-extrusion thick cylinder you should offset the critical radii by half an extrusion width so the spread of the extrusion fills in the diffference.  With just one extrusion you are stuck with just one midline. Your CAD may have an accuracy or detail setting which will reduce the effect or if it can output to STEP files instead you may gain some accuracy that way. 

As the part is so small you may as well print a few different sized calibration parts and home in on the best fit available.

Cheerio,

Posted : 25/02/2024 1:10 am
Michael2023
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RE: How to get dimensions right on single perimeter parts

Thank you for your thoughts.

I imported the model into the slicer as step file, using the measurement tool, the dimensions are correct.

I also exported the tool path as obj file and measured the diameter of the path using FreeCAD and it is close to 3.1 mm, which is exactly the center of the cylinder (3.5+2.7). So I think I can't blame the slicer and it is indeed a printing problem. Maybe due to the strong curvature, there is more material deposited on the inside than on the outside of the cylinder. Or in other words the the inner diameter shrinks more than the outer diameter increases.

So I guess I need to find the parameters experiementally.

Thank you,

Michael

Posted : 25/02/2024 10:44 am
Diem
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it is indeed a printing problem.

Not really.  It's a matter of designing for the medium.  Whatever build method you choose will have constraints of one sort or another.

Cheerio,

Posted : 25/02/2024 11:06 am
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