RE: Update...(Kind of)
Intrigued by the 'bed spacers kit' also.
Hmm... I have been a bit nervous about a potential reduction of the Z printing range, in case the new extruder & tools are taller. But that would not need spacers to implement, so they can't be related.
Maybe Prusa are tossing in some spacers to place between the base plate and bed, to allow for better mechanical bed leveling during the "Z calibration"? But I can't see how that would be related to the INDX upgrade.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Ah, so the 4 only has one 4 channel filament sensor. And only one ptfe holder set, only 4 long ptfe tubes... and those items are made by Prusa so Prusa shipping costs to add too... might have to persuade myself to get the 8 then.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Yeah that was my thinking also.
I mean, a lot of it could be 3d printed, and the PTFE/Filament sensors are likely to be off the shelf parts...but really we don't know until someone gets their hands on the kit.
RE:
I ordered the 8... FOMO kicked in and changed my mind again.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Yeah that was my thinking also.
I mean, a lot of it could be 3d printed, and the PTFE/Filament sensors are likely to be off the shelf parts...but really we don't know until someone gets their hands on the kit.
If the INDX takes off and ends up on other platforms, I can imagine BTT and others coming up with 3rd party solutions for this.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
I ordered the 8... FOMO kicked in and changed my mind again.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Ah, so the 4 only has one 4 channel filament sensor. And only one ptfe holder set, only 4 long ptfe tubes... and those items are made by Prusa so Prusa shipping costs to add too... might have to persuade myself to get the 8 then.
Just finished work. Got the discord notification earlier and saw all the emails fly in. And catching up on all the commotion. I might just wait until tomorrow morning 😂 don’t have the head for Bondtech site today.
one thing I am taking from this is most of the BOM item have “C1/C1L”. Doesn’t look like they’re is much different on the hardware side for either unit just the firmware being the issue I guess
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Am I alone when I say that this entire thing is a mess? Not just the thing about the nozzle sizes in the kit, which would be bad enough.
4 months after making the deposit I can now order the kit, but still have essentially zero information about how any of it will work, how it will be implemented, hell I don't even know if every filament path gets its own filament sensor, what temperature I can expect to reach or definitive information about print size reduction..?
And if I want to keep up to date with what little information they do release, I'd have to go to...discord?
Maybe I'm a dramaqueen, but if this wasn't bondtech, I would've canceled the order right about now.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Am I alone when I say that this entire thing is a mess? Not just the thing about the nozzle sizes in the kit, which would be bad enough.
4 months after making the deposit I can now order the kit, but still have essentially zero information about how any of it will work, how it will be implemented, hell I don't even know if every filament path gets its own filament sensor, what temperature I can expect to reach or definitive information about print size reduction..?And if I want to keep up to date with what little information they do release, I'd have to go to...discord?
Maybe I'm a dramaqueen, but if this wasn't bondtech, I would've canceled the order right about now.
Yeah, I've been on Kickstarters that were run more smoothly than this. It's definitely been a sht show. We won't really know for sure until the kits are in-hand. Then we will be spending the next 3-4 months debugging it anyway.
I'm just super annoyed that they backed out of letting us select the nozzles as part of the kit and now we have to pay extra for them. I'm also annoyed that the slicer and firmware most likely won't be ready when we receive the kits.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Im with you about the nozzles, it’s a bit sneaky imo.
Where the news about the delay in the firmware/slicer coming from?
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Where the news about the delay in the firmware/slicer coming from?
Bondtech mentions in today's email that they will keep working on the firmware during the 4-week delay. Concerns about limited slicer support are more speculative, based on Bondtech's mention of "macros" they are also continuing to work on, which may imply some kind of workaround.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
I could be mistaken but I seem to remember when they were demo'ing it there were custom g/m-code macros that were embedded in the PrusaSlicer Custom g-code section which were then expanded by an external post-processing script before being sent to the printer.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Right... So I just spent $900 for 8 tools and some nozzles. Same price as a 4 tool U1. This better be worth it. Almost seems like a case of Stockholm Syndrome (pun intended)
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Where the news about the delay in the firmware/slicer coming from?
Bondtech mentions in today's email that they will keep working on the firmware during the 4-week delay. Concerns about limited slicer support are more speculative, based on Bondtech's mention of "macros" they are also continuing to work on, which may imply some kind of workaround.
Is that all? I have enough things to be pissed off about that have actually happened, Im not adding things that might not even happen to that list !
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Now I need to spin this with my wife later...
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Any word on slicer support? I got the impression that Prusa was revamping PrusaSlicer and that was to include support for INDX. I am an INDX founder, but I'm not too enthused without seeing I can actually take advantage of INDX via the slicer. I am hoping there is a serious improvement in multi-nozzle support versus the multi-toolhead support for the XL.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Catching up on this thread, since I got my mail today. I couldn't get to the site earlier today, and doubtful I'll bother again until tomorrow when the dust has settled.
Slightly peeved though to learn that there isn't the option to choose the nozzles that come with the kit/number of tools chosen. I mean, they're supplying nozzles right? So what difference does this make to what size they are? Unless I've missed something? (Likely) 😅
Also, what's the price for the Europeans? I saw someone risking their marriage in dollars but not in Euros/Pounds yet 🤣
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Not sure what the total came to, and have to factor in the VAT also when it finally ships (Im in UK)
RE: Update...(Kind of)
Right... So I just spent $900 for 8 tools and some nozzles. Same price as a 4 tool U1. This better be worth it. Almost seems like a case of Stockholm Syndrome (pun intended)
I used the sale of my Core One to pay for the 6 x .2mm 6 x .4mm HF 6x .6mm and 6x .8mm nozzles for the H2C. Obviously, that didn't cover the entire cost... have multiple tool heads is PRICEY.
When the 8 tool head Core One XL comes out, it'll get expensive again.
RE: Update...(Kind of)
I was hoping it was going to come in at around £600-ish, minus the deposit of course. Maybe I'll try to sneak a look this evening, when the world goes to sleep 😅