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domble
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RE: Update...(Kind of)
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One interesting thing about that nozzle sensor thing is how quick it works...looks like it's used after every tool change,

Can't be; can't move the bed back up when there's a print on it.  That sensor is attached to the bed.  So must be a one-time or at most once-per-print calibration.

Posted : 15/04/2026 9:20 am
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gb160
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Yeah that makes sense. Just coincidental its on the XY path the toolhead takes when going to do a poop.

Posted : 15/04/2026 9:29 am
WDLandry
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An additional upside is that I am assuming this calibration board removes the need for my core one print head to incessantly bang at the corner of the machine while homing! Honestly, i would buy the founders to have that ability now 😂 on my machine the banging got better during one of the FW updates but it’s back to a random number of hits now in recent weeks. 

With that in mind, I am also wondering what the solution is going to be now for belt tuning. The led is going to be lower now and also the fence is in the way for the auto tuning feature 

Posted : 15/04/2026 9:30 am
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Jürgen
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Posted by: @wdlandry

wondering what the solutions is going to be now for belt tuning also. The led is going to be lower now and also the fence is in the way for the auto tuning feature 

The new extruder will have the accelerometer on board, I believe. That should enable fully automated belt tension measurement (resonance). Maybe that's the bit they are still working on? 

Posted : 15/04/2026 9:32 am
gb160
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Posted by: @jurgen-7
Posted by: @wdlandry

wondering what the solutions is going to be now for belt tuning also. The led is going to be lower now and also the fence is in the way for the auto tuning feature 

The new extruder will have the accelerometer on board, I believe. That should enable fully automated belt tension measurement (resonance). Maybe that's the bit the are still working on? 

I never understood why the old external accelerometer was never used in the belt tuning previously? Maybe because it was an optional extra?
Obviously the actual adjustment would need to be manual, but theres no technical reason why the actual measurement couldn't have been automatic?

Posted : 15/04/2026 9:35 am
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Jürgen
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Posted by: @gb160

I never understood why the old external accelerometer was never used in the belt tuning previously? Maybe because it was an optional extra?
Obviously the actual adjustment would need to be manual, but theres no technical reason why the actual measurement couldn't have been automatic?

Yes, I assume it's the optional-only availability of the accelerometer. Also, the fact that it is a bit awkward to install every time you want to check belt tension would take away from the "hands-off, fully automatic" measurement. The stroboscope measurement is actually more convenient in a regular Core One (+), I would argue.

Posted : 15/04/2026 9:42 am
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Gordon W
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Bondtech have said there will not be a second batch of founders kits from cancelled orders, they will move straight to general release 'soon' after Founders kits ship.

Posted : 15/04/2026 10:02 am
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Jürgen
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Bondtech have said there will not be a second batch of founders kits from cancelled orders, they will move straight to general release 'soon' after Founders kits ship.

I forecast a price reduction of the 99€  T-shirts in the Bondtech shop. Or a "special, limited-time only, free T-shirt deal" for the first regular orders.  😉 

Posted : 15/04/2026 10:08 am
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gb160
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Posted by: @jurgen-7
Posted by: @gordon-w

Bondtech have said there will not be a second batch of founders kits from cancelled orders, they will move straight to general release 'soon' after Founders kits ship.

I forecast a price reduction of the 99€  T-shirts in the Bondtech shop. Or a "special, limited-time only, free T-shirt deal" for the first regular orders.  😉 

That price is just wild. I wouldn't pay 100 euros for a really nice t-shirt , honestly I wouldn't pay anything for that monstrosity...1 euro is too much.

Posted : 15/04/2026 10:13 am
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mnentwig
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Posted by: @jurgen-7

I forecast a price reduction of the 99€  T-shirts in the Bondtech shop. Or a "special, limited-time only, free T-shirt deal" for the first regular orders.  😉 

impossible to do cheaper, made of solid oak...

We'll just put some bleachers out in the sun-And have it on Highway 61
Posted : 15/04/2026 1:50 pm
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chmax
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since I haven't seen it shared here so far, here is another short close look at the 8 tool version:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/yRy_xz-J7Ac

Posted : 16/04/2026 7:33 am
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chmax
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sorry I saw it was already posted but I've missed it in the flurry of posting in the last couple of days 🙁

Posted by: @chmax

since I haven't seen it shared here so far, here is another short close look at the 8 tool version:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/yRy_xz-J7Ac

 

Posted : 16/04/2026 9:30 am
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gb160
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cnxqf8dcMg4

Posted : 16/04/2026 4:01 pm
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Chris Hill
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RE: Update...(Kind of)

I think all three of the prints he showed have 5 colours.  I hope those folks who ordered the 4 tool kit aren't regretting their choice 🤣 🤣 

Posted by: @gb160

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cnxqf8dcMg4

 

Posted : 16/04/2026 4:30 pm
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hyiger
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Posted by: @chris-hill

I think all three of the prints he showed have 5 colours.  I hope those folks who ordered the 4 tool kit aren't regretting their choice 🤣 🤣 

Posted by: @gb160

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cnxqf8dcMg4

 

There is a lot of progress being made in multi-spectrum printing with only 4 tools. Including getting the top layers blended. It's no where near the quality of an exact color filament but for some it might be enough. I'm glad I didn't get the 4 tools but then I'm still not sure what I'm going to do with 8. After printing my Nth flexi-dragon I'll probably get bored. 

For 4 tools and not multi-color I could envision a single color functional printer with: 0.2mm for external details, 0.4mm for support interface, 0.6mm for walls and 1.0mm for infill. Assuming when and if multiple nozzle diameters are supported in the same print. 

Posted : 16/04/2026 6:11 pm
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WDLandry
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Still time to change to 8 if people want it. I have yet to order as I continue to procrastinate but really do want to know what I’ll be getting exactly in the founders set up. 8 is tempting but i really just want multi material for supports and combining tpu into some of my functional designs. Any desire for 8 on my part is part “oh but I may need it in the future” and part fomo 

Posted : 16/04/2026 8:35 pm
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hyiger
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Since multi-color really isn't my thing, I'm at the point now where I'm doing it for the learning experience more than the utility of it. So I guess whether I get the 4 or the 8 really doesn't matter (other than the cost). I am curious to find out how multi-material engineering materials will work with this setup. Not so much printing an 8 color dragon. 

Posted : 17/04/2026 12:24 am
Inbox
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Might be a silly question but why is there a purge bucket?

I thought the whole idea of indx beyond multi-colour/material printing was to reduce waste, if you are not changing the filament in the nozzle why do you need to purge material?

Posted : 17/04/2026 1:34 pm
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WDLandry
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A better description of it, is to call it a prime bucket. Purging and priming aren’t the same. AMS single nozzle systems purge the nozzle of an all filament to prevent colour blending. This purge is significant, particularly going from say black to white. However for the indx There is nothing stopping you from skipping the prime. Here it’s to ensure any hard filament “bits” are removed to ensure the print is smooth. This will be tiny in comparison with a purge. Also it prevents the need for a prime tower giving you more build volume

Posted by: @inbox

Might be a silly question but why is there a purge bucket?

I thought the whole idea of indx beyond multi-colour/material printing was to reduce waste, if you are not changing the filament in the nozzle why do you need to purge material?

 

Posted : 17/04/2026 1:38 pm
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chmax
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RE: Update...(Kind of)

adding to that, when a tool get parked, the filament in it is still hot, so a little oozing is probably unavoidable. Once the tool gets picked up again and reheated, you want to clean whatever oozed out before starting deposit filament on your object. Thus the very little poops in the bin...

Posted by: @wdlandry

A better description of it, is to call it a prime bucket. Purging and priming aren’t the same. AMS single nozzle systems purge the nozzle of an all filament to prevent colour blending. This purge is significant, particularly going from say black to white. However for the indx There is nothing stopping you from skipping the prime. Here it’s to ensure any hard filament “bits” are removed to ensure the print is smooth. This will be tiny in comparison with a purge. Also it presents the need for a prime tower giving you more build volume

Posted by: @inbox

Might be a silly question but why is there a purge bucket?

I thought the whole idea of indx beyond multi-colour/material printing was to reduce waste, if you are not changing the filament in the nozzle why do you need to purge material?

 

 

Posted : 17/04/2026 1:44 pm
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