CORE One L Kit interest
The announcement of the CORE One L got me exited, I am thinking about upgrading from my MK3(I don't know exactly what updates i did) to a new printer. And the bigger print volume of the CORE Ono L was a extra step towards a new printer. But I was a bit bumped about this FAQ that I found explaining there will be no kit version (hopefully for now):
Does the CORE One L printer have a kit version?
For the CORE One L, we decided to focus on the fully assembled version. By streamlining production to a single assembled version, we can optimize manufacturing and make the printer more affordable, while keeping the same level of quality and reliability. The AC bed also offers some complications in terms of certification if it is provided as a kit product. We're carefully monitoring the feedback and interest in this regard, though changes for this specific product are unlikely at this stage. Even for our assembled machines, we want to make sure they remain easy to repair, maintain, and modify, so the spirit of tinkering stays alive in every Prusa printer. You can also expect many help articles to simplify various stages of disassembly and to encourage repairability.
I loved building my MK3. I think I got allot more knowledge of my 3D printer this way and can now easily think and spot a problem when I have one and repair it quickly. Also just the process of building the printer was awesome, a kind of LEGO for grownups (but I think a teenager could build one as well with some parental guidance). It made me proud to have a Prusa that I have build and exited to talk about the printer and show the progress on my 3d printing journey.
One thing shout-out from this part of the FAQ, "We're carefully monitoring the feedback and interest in this regard, though changes for this specific product are unlikely at this stage. " and therefor I am making this forum post. I am interested in a kit version and I hope some people will put in there feedback of wanting a kit version to.
As a electrical engineer myself I fully understand the part of "The AC bed also offers some complications in terms of certification if it is provided as a kit product.", but I loved how in the MK3 you made a solution to not have people wire the AC part. Hope you can find a solution for this to and have a kit eventually.
So to get back to the point of why making this post in the first place. Who like to have a kit version of the Core One L ?
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I agree... I would like a kit because I liked the mk3s kit and to save about 300eur.
The printing surface and the heating plate, which is certainly more solid, make me prefer the “core one Large” to the “core one mk4”.
F. using deepl translate, from France
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I'm definitely interested in the kit. More for the fun and getting-to-know-your-printer-inside-and-out part than the cost savings.
Btw, waiting for the Core One L INDX to be available. If there is no kit version by then, I'll order it assembled.
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Prusa is most likely not allowed to provide a kit since it has a AC heater.
Its illegal at least here in Sweden to do that kind of electrical work without a license. And quite sure its the same in all of EU because of the same regulations.
Your only luck would be if they provided a downgraded version with the old 24v heater.
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Thanks for your feedback. I know that the Swedish regulations are really strong on electrical work, friends of my moved to Sweden and I learned how strict they are. It is a bit different here in the Netherlands.
But like I mentioned in the starting post there are ways around it. For example this was the power supply on the MK3.
They made the enclosure around the mains voltage connections and wired it up to a power plug socket to prevent you having to wire up the mains voltage. If they do the same on the mains parts of the bed and connection to the rest of the printer I think they can have it save for everyone. But we will see if the people at Prusa are up for the challenge.
RE: CORE One L Kit interest
Prusa is most likely not allowed to provide a kit since it has a AC heater.
Its illegal at least here in Sweden to do that kind of electrical work without a license. And quite sure its the same in all of EU because of the same regulations.
Your only luck would be if they provided a downgraded version with the old 24v heater.
Then how does Ratrig sell their kits? They have a 230 V build plate.
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Yeah that would work here as well.
And no clue about ratrig. Never looked at their printers. I just know that electrical stuff in Sweden is hell. Trying to sell my custom lamps, but can't make them myself without going through a 5000 euros certification on EACH lamp on the electrical parts.
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Great topic, i hope there will be a Core One L INDX kit.
It's great to build an tweak your own printer and that at a lower price. 😍
Al tough i think a assembled version make more sense for the mainstream users as it's getting more complex and time-consuming and it may cuts some cost in support, guidance, etc...
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I vote for the Kit! No problems of regulations in Canada.
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I would definitely be interested, C1L is a sweet spot in many categories, but no kit is a real no-go for me, part of owning a Prusa is building it and getting to know the tool.
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I will add my request for a kit version. I plan to build a 300mm square printer to install an INDX changer in when they ship next year. If this Core One L kit is not going to be forthcoming, I will likely choose a Trident kit instead. I like the idea of knowing the printer intimately through the process of building it, and here in the US we are not impacted by European laws about wiring. It does however seem that some sort of factory built sub assembly and plug option should be available to allow kit sales in Europe as well.
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I'm just speculating of course, but I suspect Prusa received way too many support calls than they were expecting for the Core One and I would not be surprised if future printers no longer come in full kit form. They are becoming (in my opinion) too difficult for the casual hobbyist (that is a beginner to 3d printing) to build successfully. And with the new AC bed I suspect a liability issue.
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I had to decide between the core and the core l. i take the core, one of the main decision point was it is available as kit version
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Prusa is most likely not allowed to provide a kit since it has a AC heater.
Its illegal at least here in Sweden to do that kind of electrical work without a license. And quite sure its the same in all of EU because of the same regulations.
Your only luck would be if they provided a downgraded version with the old 24v heater.
I don't know the details of the Swedish (and potentially other EU member state) regulations. But a way around them that might be acceptable is to have all the AC connections pre-assembled with keyed connectors where practical. Yes, I know it is AC so one would think that polarity doesn't matter, but what does matter for safety is controlling where the hot is vs. the return unless both lines are switched. Without doing the research, my expectation is a keyed pair of connectors is cheaper than DPDT switching. But I could be wrong... I'm often surprised at the cost of some connectors... 😉
Having the internal AC cabling connectorized would also make servicing easier and less dependent on proper licensing for AC work. So maybe it's already connectorized? (I haven't seen a teardown yet.)
See my (limited) designs on:
Printables - https://www.printables.com/@Sembazuru
Thingiverse - https://www.thingiverse.com/Sembazuru/designs
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Not an electrical engineer, but couldn't they have gone to a 48VDC power supply and bed instead of AC? I realize you get faster and more efficient heating powering directly from mains but DC is way safer.
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Should be possible - the heatbed tile System of the xl could be an solution there....
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I would definitely buy the Core One L if it came in kit form. You just know the printer so well after you built it that maintenance and fault finding becomes much easier.
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Definitely would be interested in a Core One L kit version.
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There will never be a Core One L kit. I could be wrong but I believe the Core One is Prusa's last kit. Maybe there will be an upgrade path from a Core One to a Core Two but I'll be surprised if the Core Two (making up the name of course) also comes as a full kit.
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como vou saber se haverá o kit para a one l