[Solved] Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA  

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

While I've not got a Core One, I've never had to use an adhesive when printing PLA on my MK3S+ or my MK3.5, I would wait to try without first.  If it calibrates correctly it should stick just fine.

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

Can you still use Layerneer Adhesive on a satin print sheet? I'm trying to decide if I should buy it or not. People say that it is good just to keep around in case you need it.

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

I don't know to be honest, as I said I've never had a problem with adhesion that couldn't be fixed by cleaning the sheet and/or lowering the Z height.

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

Great, thanks for your help with this. I really appreciate the advice!

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

You can use glue on any kind of print sheet. I find it is better to have it on hand for tricky cases, e.g. for objects that cover the whole print sheet. I use 3d lac occasionally. It does not harm the print plate and can be washed off with hot water and/or IPA.

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

do you by any chance have a link for where I can get this from? 

thanks for all your help!

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

Do you use the spray or the stick? also, what is the difference between 3d lac and 3d lac plus+

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

I would try printing without glue at first - you may find you don't even need it. 

Ive never used glue with any PLA prints. 

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

You could always try a standard glue stick first. I'm not sure how much the Layerneer costs, but I bet a standard glue stick would be much cheaper and probably work about as well.

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

thanks, I'll try that!

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I have mostly used the brand "3d lac plus" in spray bottles that work with an air pump, without aerosol. It is available on Amazon or on shops that sell filament.

If you need it or not is also dependent on the filament brand sometimes. I have printed the same model without needing adhesive at all with one brand of PLA and then changed to another brand of PLA where the corners lifted off the plate. I sprayed the corners of the print sheet with 3d lac and the next print was okay.
And concerning the price: one big print that needs about half of a spool, fails, and has to be printed again will cost a lot more than the 3d lac that was used to make one successful print.

I plan on printing with PLA, I bought a sating sheet to go with my Prusa CORE One. I heard that your supposed to use bed adhesive when printing sometimes to help the print sitck.

That advice is ten years out of date.  These days unless you are using high-tech specialist filaments all glues are used to *reduce* adhesion.  You will never need it for PLA on a modern print sheet.  If PLA won't stick, wash the print sheet.

Cheerio,

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

Posted by: @diem

I plan on printing with PLA, I bought a sating sheet to go with my Prusa CORE One. I heard that your supposed to use bed adhesive when printing sometimes to help the print sitck.

That advice is ten years out of date.  These days unless you are using high-tech specialist filaments all glues are used to *reduce* adhesion.  You will never need it for PLA on a modern print sheet.  If PLA won't stick, wash the print sheet.

Cheerio,

 

The wise man has spoken!!!

100% agree

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That “up-to-date advice” has not been true, in my experience.  I print mostly PLA and have tried all 3 (smooth, satin, textured) build plates, washed with soap & water and/or IPA90, with and without adhesive (Magigoo) and they always stick best with Magigoo.  PETG, for me, won’t even barely stick to my smooth sheet without adhesive yet that’s the combination that everyone warns will stick so firmly it damages the plate.  For me, it just curls right off.  I dry my filament, too, generally printing straight from the dryer box.  I dab a few spots of Magigoo on the clean plate, then spread it around evenly with a moist microfiber cloth.  YMMV.

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

Thats strange - I always print straight on the smooth sheet and have never had any issues at all. I never touch the bed other then from the very edges, so haven't actually washed or cleaned it in absolutely ages - just give it a quick visual to ensure there's no marks or finger oils etc on it, sometimes the odd spray of IPA, and off I go. I've never had a print come loose on the MK4s, ever........let's hope I don't jinx myself though!!! lol

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

It might have to do with the room temperature? My printer lives in the basement, which gets chilly in winter, and I have seen bed adhesion issues with PLA and PETG when the room temperature is about 15°C or less. One of the reasons why I am looking forward to the Core One with its enclosed chamber!    

Some new print-sheets don't begin to adhere properly until they have been thoroughly scrubbed.

Cheerio,

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

when you get a new print sheet, should you wash it with soap first so it can adhere properly?

RE: Can you use Layerneer on a Satin Print Sheet using PLA

I have seen bed adhesion issues with PLA and PETG when the room temperature is about 15°C or less

From P6 of the Core One manual:

Operating Temperature Range: 18 °C - 38 °C

Cheerio,