RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
I upgraded from an ml4s so the price for me was right. From a features and functions point of view, the C1L would be the one to look at, but then you need to compate the €1,057.02 of the "normal" C1 and the €1,404.13 of the C1L. That is a hefty difference. Sure it has a better heating plate and a larger volume ...
In your position I'd have an hard look at the usage you have in mind for the C1, if the larger size is not needed you may want to save the money for the IDX upgrade later on...
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Let’s see how it performs regarding VFA. But with the new Core One firmware, this issue seems to be solved — or am I mistaken?
Not for me. Pretty much the same VFAs, despite using firmware 6.4.0 RC, the new belt tuning specs and stroboscope wizard, and the new Balanced settings in PrusaSlicer.
I would not expect a fundamental difference in this respect in the Core One L however. Same architecture and belts, presumably?
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
I am expecting a different set of boards and cabling to accomodate the embedded accelerometer, the new heating plate controlling (vs supplying the power to heat the old one), top vent control etc etc
A change in the belt pitch is highly unrealistic as it would make the original c1 sort of obsolete already
Let’s see how it performs regarding VFA. But with the new Core One firmware, this issue seems to be solved — or am I mistaken?
Not for me. Pretty much the same VFAs, despite using firmware 6.4.0 RC, the new belt tuning specs and stroboscope wizard, and the new Balanced settings in PrusaSlicer.
I would not expect a fundamental difference in this respect in the Core One L however. Same architecture and belts, presumably?
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
In your position I'd have an hard look at the usage you have in mind for the C1, if the larger size is not needed you may want to save the money for the IDX upgrade later on...
Yep, I’m very interested in the Indx upgrade. The C1 is available right now, and the longer I wait for the C1L, the longer the delivery will take. I’ll probably go for the C1 after Formnext…
Not for me. Pretty much the same VFAs, despite using firmware 6.4.0 RC, the new belt tuning specs and stroboscope wizard, and the new Balanced settings in PrusaSlicer.
Oh, that’s a shame. 🙁
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
I am expecting a different set of boards and cabling to accomodate the embedded accelerometer, the new heating plate controlling (vs supplying the power to heat the old one), top vent control etc etc
Did they announce an embedded accelerometer, or is that just you being optimistic? 😉
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they did!!!
Get the Best Performance Right out of the Box
The CORE One L is equipped with an accelerometer, and the firmware comes with a built-in wizard for setting optimal belt tension.
I am expecting a different set of boards and cabling to accomodate the embedded accelerometer, the new heating plate controlling (vs supplying the power to heat the old one), top vent control etc etc
Did they announce an embedded accelerometer, or is that just you being optimistic? 😉
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
they did!!!
Get the Best Performance Right out of the Box
The CORE One L is equipped with an accelerometer, and the firmware comes with a built-in wizard for setting optimal belt tension.
Did they announce an embedded accelerometer, or is that just you being optimistic? 😉
Nice! I must have missed that. The blog post announcing the Core One L only talks about "factory-calibrated" input shaper, phase stepping and belt tension, if I recall correctly.
Here's hoping than an INDX upgrade for the smaller Core One will also include an accelerometer on board of the new extruder!
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
You would think that it would by default if the tool head is standard- otherwise the INDX would be "downgrading" any other machine that already has an accelerometer in the tool head ;). But that does make me wonder if the existing main cable can even be used, and if not, can the existing buddy board even be used- Or does it need another type of extension or whatever to provide any additional signals to the INDX... Fun to speculate, guess we should find out in 2 weeks.
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
(seeing @chmax said as much... responding to lower messages FTL)
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
I'm personally convinced that Prusa is going to move further away from the consumer in several ways. First by cutting back on the kits. Then by discontinuing the entry level printers. Next only offering prosumer, pro level printers and print farms. Again, this is just me speculating but they just can't compete on the consumer level anymore with Bambu, SnapMaker etc. Also, I think some of the other comments about the Oak edition are spot on, i.e. you get a corporate type from an engineering company that needs to invest in a prototype lab or a print farm and Prusa throws in an Oak Edition as a shiny office trinket.
- Bob Marley
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
it is interesting to see how radically different the oak thing can be perceived. I see it as "we have hyperfans and if they want something unique we give it to them", if you want an honest buck as it delivers what is promises: a slick(er) box. Some seem to see this a sign of impending doom 😉
The competition with the rest of the industry is a balance act: if they keep the upgradability and a decent level of innovation (maybe not always, but often enough, eg the INDX adoption) that even a price premium would be ok for me; that remains of course a very personal point of view... it is going to be very interesting to see what really happens in the next couple of years...
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
There was a recent post in prusa's official reddit channel and it leaves no question about C1 to C1L upgrades: https://www.reddit.com/r/prusa3d/s/zyCR0vDrJR
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it is interesting to see how radically different the oak thing can be perceived. I see it as "we have hyperfans and if they want something unique we give it to them", if you want an honest buck as it delivers what is promises: a slick(er) box. Some seem to see this a sign of impending doom 😉
The competition with the rest of the industry is a balance act: if they keep the upgradability and a decent level of innovation (maybe not always, but often enough, eg the INDX adoption) that even a price premium would be ok for me; that remains of course a very personal point of view... it is going to be very interesting to see what really happens in the next couple of years...
I'm in 100% agreement with @Jürgen that the Oak is a fancy hood ornament and a distraction rather than a practical printer (for the consumer). I admit it does look nice but then if I owned (could afford) one, would I even want to use it? If I planned to use it, it most certainly won't be in a living area, it would be in a ventilated garage with my other printers. If so, then what's the point of it? Maybe to show it off to your guests but not necessarily ever turn it on (like people who collect rare cars but never drive them...).
Anyway, I don't see this as impeding doom, only that Prusa is shifting focus (as they rightly should). Thus my theory that the Prusa is slowly moving away from the consumer. Makes sense to me at least.
I think with the Core One - L they are demonstrating the new Prusa in that they are moving away from the reprap world that spawned Prusa Research. I expect to see in the future more injection molded and machined parts.
- Bob Marley
RE: Will there be CORE-One-L-heatbed upgrade kit for the CORE One?
I'm personally convinced that Prusa is going to move further away from the consumer in several ways. First by cutting back on the kits. Then by discontinuing the entry level printers. Next only offering prosumer, pro level printers and print farms. Again, this is just me speculating but they just can't compete on the consumer level anymore with Bambu, SnapMaker etc. Also, I think some of the other comments about the Oak edition are spot on, i.e. you get a corporate type from an engineering company that needs to invest in a prototype lab or a print farm and Prusa throws in an Oak Edition as a shiny office trinket.
Not sure about that mate. I doubt they'd be looking at implementing INDX which is seems to be aimed at multi material/color printing for the consumer...pro level and print farms etc they already cover with the XL.
That market may well be what they end up concentrating on in the future, but I dont see that happening any time soon.
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I'm personally convinced that Prusa is going to move further away from the consumer in several ways. First by cutting back on the kits. Then by discontinuing the entry level printers. Next only offering prosumer, pro level printers and print farms. Again, this is just me speculating but they just can't compete on the consumer level anymore with Bambu, SnapMaker etc. Also, I think some of the other comments about the Oak edition are spot on, i.e. you get a corporate type from an engineering company that needs to invest in a prototype lab or a print farm and Prusa throws in an Oak Edition as a shiny office trinket.
Not sure about that mate. I doubt they'd be looking at implementing INDX which is seems to be aimed at multi material/color printing for the consumer...pro level and print farms etc they already cover with the XL.
That market may well be what they end up concentrating on in the future, but I dont see that happening any time soon.
Agree it's not going to happen overnight. I see it it as a gradual slide. Or at minimum they target the industrial, prosumer and (maybe) education markets. I just can't see a viable model for them anymore in the entry-level consumer space. If I were entering this as a beginner hobbiest in 2026 (instead of 2022) I'm not sure I would pick a Prusa. If were setting up a business, I would absolutely go for something like an XL etc.
- Bob Marley