RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Krempa, "mouse ears". And if the bottom surface is not as good as it looks, you can make relief there in the form of squares with a depth of the height of the first layer. Ovšem i tady vás čeká trochu více výzkumu. You can find an example on the bottom of the part for MMU here: https://www.printables.com/model/531604-mmu3-printable-parts/files#preview.file.Np0ah
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Cant emphasise part geometry enough, if a part isn't designed to alleviate warping then it can be a tricky problem to solve.
Would you have a reliable pointer for this (tips to alleviate warping), please?
I watched this video quite recently , and although a lot of what he said I was aware of already, he mentioned a couple of other factors that I hadn't considered:
It's not on geometry specifically, but that is mentioned IIRC.
With geometry I find it hard to explain as I don't really know the correct terminologies, I'm by no means an expert, but I've printed enough to now to be able to look at a part and just know if its likely to suffer warping.
It's basically being able to notice if a certain section of a part is likely to suffer from stresses as the filament cools, and what you can do to alleviate those stresses.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
I have now tested them and have had good success.
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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Krempa, "mouse ears". And if the bottom surface is not as good as it looks, you can make relief there in the form of squares with a depth of the height of the first layer. Ovšem i tady vás čeká trochu více výzkumu. You can find an example on the bottom of the part for MMU here: https://www.printables.com/model/531604-mmu3-printable-parts/files#preview.file.Np0ah
OK, this blows my mind. I had no idea you can lift such huge portion of the face off the bed and have it function... hmm. Also, Váš mix češtiny a angličtiny je značně matoucí 😉
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
For larger ASA and PC parts I print on a G10 surface that is attached to a thick steel plate. The reason is that I've had parts warp and pull the print sheet off the bed.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Also, Váš mix češtiny a angličtiny je značně matoucí 😉
Unfortunately, I am quite an old man and my English is not very good. So I would rather use a translator than struggle with the English from my head. The important thing is that machine translation is quite accurate these days and no one has complained yet that they did not understand the text, which could easily happen with the English from my old head.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Also, Váš mix češtiny a angličtiny je značně matoucí 😉
Unfortunately, I am quite an old man and my English is not very good. So I would rather use a translator than struggle with the English from my head. The important thing is that machine translation is quite accurate these days and no one has complained yet that they did not understand the text, which could easily happen with the English from my old head.
Oh, no problem with that. Now that chatgpt does reasonable job even at CZ->EN (and back), it's fine. I was just struggling to switch back and forth in the previous post. Which is why I poked fun at the mix. Didn't mean to offend...
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Yeah, that's OK. It could have happened somewhere that I forgot to switch the forum to English, or I accidentally inserted a Czech template, although I'm careful about that. But that's okay, let's leave it at that.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Btw, is there somewhere more explanation regarding the lifted up squares (like in the MMU3)? I searched but couldn't find info regarding that...
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
In my opinion, these deepened squares should break the tension created in the first layer. Maybe someone could know more. In any case, they worked quite well for me.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
I like to revisit this.
I have more than 10 Benchy prints this weekend on the Cryogrip Pro Glacier (I dont give up so easily).
Below is my 2-cent of what I learned.
I tried to make a new printer in Prusa slicer quite early since the couple of first Benchy's came loose quite fast.
Looking at the settings in my old faithful MK3S and difference between the smooth sheet and the textured.
Smooth: 0.536
Textured: 0.795
So there it is a difference.
After many tries I ended up with -0.085 more negative and the text under Benchy started to rip up.
First layer speed : 15mm/s
The Benchy started to get higher and higher for every try before coming loose.
Ok, maybe I need a Brim after all.
Tried 1mm, didn't work of course. But 3mm worked.
Finally Benchy sticks pretty good and is easy to remove.
One thing I noticed with the sheet it is fine structured really nice but one flaw I noticed was that when drawing the backside of your hand over the sheet it sticks a bite here and there, like it is small grains that are higher on some spots.
This is also noticeable when the printer do the bed leveling, it do the these micro stepping many more times then it does on the Prusa structured sheet.
To mitigate this I took 1400 fine sandpaper and rubbed the surface a bit, not much and with an easy hand.
Now we talking, stuff started to grip better, no Benchy's came loose but warped a bit at the bow.
So brim is needed, 3mm worked fine.
For what it is worth.
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Gert
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Gert
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
My Cryogrip Glacier arrived last Saturday and went back today. Awful is the word to describe it. I only tried PLA but, oh boy, what a disaster. First I tried a quick wash with IPA.No glue, bed at 50C. Adhesion was quite bad but I still managed to print a few layers before the model got loose from the bed. Then I tried warm water and soap, no glue, bed at 60C. Worse still, zero adhesion and I mean ZERO. The filament refused totally to stick to the plate, I even imagined that maybe there was a protective film on the Cryogrip, that I'd forgot to remove, but no mention of that in the leaflet of instructions and of course no film to remove. Thinking that there was something wrong with the printer or the nozzle I put back the satin plate and everything was fine again.
My only explanation is that either you guys are in the payroll of Bigtreetech 😘 or I got a total lemon.
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My only explanation is that either you guys are in the payroll of Bigtreetech 😘 or I got a total lemon.
That's odd. Wondering if you have a counterfeit? The last sheet I bought was in November. Maybe a QA issue then?
I own 3 plates and have never had adhesion issues. This includes: PLA, PETG, PCTG, PA, PPA, ASA, PC, TPU, PEBA. PLA sticks really well and can even run the plate cold. I also have never really cleaned the sheets except wipe with a dry cloth on occasion.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
My only explanation is that either you guys are in the payroll of Bigtreetech 😘 or I got a total lemon.
That's odd. Wondering if you have a counterfeit? The last sheet I bought was in November. Maybe a QA issue then?
I own 3 plates and have never had adhesion issues. This includes: PLA, PETG, PCTG, PA, PPA, ASA, PC, TPU, PEBA. PLA sticks really well and can even run the plate cold. I also have never really cleaned the sheets except wipe with a dry cloth on occasion.
Yeah there's got to be a bad batch of them. Something this cheap is very unlikely to be counterfeit...theres not enough profit in it.
Too many of us have nothing but positives to say about them I'm still on my first of 3, couldn't be happier.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Just to be sure, for you guys that the sheet works perfectly, no extra tweeking or settings?
Put the plate on and use your normal smooth sheet settings?
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Gert
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Yep, most likely a bad batch. Given both GertL and artur5 are having the same issue at the same time. Works so well for me that I've retired the Prusa satin and PEI plates.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
No change to settings - worked as is. All I did was wash mine with dish soap prior to printing.
My only explanation is that either you guys are in the payroll of Bigtreetech 😘 or I got a total lemon.
That's odd. Wondering if you have a counterfeit? The last sheet I bought was in November. Maybe a QA issue then?
I own 3 plates and have never had adhesion issues. This includes: PLA, PETG, PCTG, PA, PPA, ASA, PC, TPU, PEBA. PLA sticks really well and can even run the plate cold. I also have never really cleaned the sheets except wipe with a dry cloth on occasion.
Yeah there's got to be a bad batch of them. Something this cheap is very unlikely to be counterfeit...theres not enough profit in it.
Too many of us have nothing but positives to say about them I'm still on my first of 3, couldn't be happier.
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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Just to be sure, for you guys that the sheet works perfectly, no extra tweeking or settings?
Put the plate on and use your normal smooth sheet settings?
I have had zero issues with mine. I own three that are in use and I swap them in and out depending on what is on-hand. I don't even need to clean it between prints. Unlike the satin plate, I can run the Cryo 10-20C colder (for PLA and PETG) and for smaller PC parts I don't need a brim.
The only material that doesn't stick to it is PP which is entirely understandable. I did ruin one plate when I used adhesive with ASA. The part ended up welding itself to the plate.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Just to be sure, for you guys that the sheet works perfectly, no extra tweeking or settings?
Put the plate on and use your normal smooth sheet settings?
no changes at all mate, I use the same temps as with prusa sheets.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
When Im back from skiing ill order a new one directly from biqu instead of Amazon.
I refuse to surrender.
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Gert