RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
I wonder if it is cultural.
Jo don't talk much. 😎
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Core One assembled units had announced start of shipping in January. And it started 31st of January. Why anyone thinks first kits will be shipped before 31st of March?
Some of you guys acting like it's already middle of the April, nothing has been shipped yet and Prusa gave no update on March shipping date. But that's not the case. Just be patient and believe that shipping will start on Monday as promised.
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
I doubt it, with many here, because what they do is ridiculous.I waited 6 weeks for my first printer MK3S+ instead of the promised 4 weeks,I waited 14 weeks instead of the promised 8 weeks for MK4,I waited 14 days for a roll of filament in stock with 2-day expensive postage, because it was shipped on the 10th day on Friday,2025.02.07 I ordered a camera instead of 4 weeks, there is still no sign of the camera, they are pushing the delivery date every day.Well, just because of that, another order of mine did not arrive on the promised time.
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
The damn for Prusa printers keeps going up. I am amazed every time they release sales numbers.
I doubt it, with many here, because what they do is ridiculous.I waited 6 weeks for my first printer MK3S+ instead of the promised 4 weeks,I waited 14 weeks instead of the promised 8 weeks for MK4,I waited 14 days for a roll of filament in stock with 2-day expensive postage, because it was shipped on the 10th day on Friday,2025.02.07 I ordered a camera instead of 4 weeks, there is still no sign of the camera, they are pushing the delivery date every day.Well, just because of that, another order of mine did not arrive on the promised time.
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RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
I doubt it, with many here, because what they do is ridiculous. I waited 6 weeks for my first printer MK3S+ instead of the promised 4 weeks,I waited 14 weeks instead of the promised 8 weeks for MK4,I waited 14 days for a roll of filament in stock with 2-day expensive postage, because it was shipped on the 10th day on Friday,2025.02.07 I ordered a camera instead of 4 weeks, there is still no sign of the camera, they are pushing the delivery date every day.Well, just because of that, another order of mine did not arrive on the promised time.
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
The damn for Prusa printers keeps going up. I am amazed every time they release sales numbers.
I doubt it, with many here, because what they do is ridiculous.I waited 6 weeks for my first printer MK3S+ instead of the promised 4 weeks,I waited 14 weeks instead of the promised 8 weeks for MK4,I waited 14 days for a roll of filament in stock with 2-day expensive postage, because it was shipped on the 10th day on Friday,2025.02.07 I ordered a camera instead of 4 weeks, there is still no sign of the camera, they are pushing the delivery date every day.Well, just because of that, another order of mine did not arrive on the promised time.
You know, I'm just afraid that this will cause trouble one day. Last year, I read on an Italian forum that they were planning to form a litigation company and file a complaint with the EU court for unfair trade.
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
The damn for Prusa printers keeps going up. I am amazed every time they release sales numbers
Apparently Prusa have still been growing, but well below market growth rate. Which means that they continue to fall behind Bambu regarding economy of scale. And that shows, of course. It shows in the hardware design and manufacturing of Prusa's printers, and in the limited firmware and software development effort they can afford. Bambu can just amortize that over much larger unit numbers, and the gap continues to widen.
I am still buying a Prusa printer (and I will keep it if it does well what it is advertised to do). But I would not buy any Prusa shares if those were on offer.
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If you look around, all the info has been there since a little over a week ago. They really need to put it all in one place.
In short, it's going to ship near the end of March. They are just in the middle of finishing the Assembly Instructions.
Those forum posts are from one of the Prusa moderators.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1APSXEE7m8/
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So, with the last day of this month now zero workdays away -- when can we expect more precise information to become available?
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
So, with the last day of this month now zero workdays away
Why? Monday 31.03.2025 is still a working day. So everything is in time.
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
So, with the last day of this month now zero workdays away
Why? Monday 31.03.2025 is still a working day. So everything is in time.
Yes, Monday is the last day of the month, and it is now zero workdays away. No more work will be done between today and the supposed ship date. No more yet-unknown information will be generated. So why not talk to us as promised?
My point is not that Prusa would have missed the target or should have shipped faster. My point is (and was all along) that they suck at communicating.
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Everybody is about to have a tiff when the date is postponed 😆
I'm on the same boat but honestly it feels like folks are overreacting a smidge 😁
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I’ll say it - “shipping in March” is not an acceptable replacement for “shipping on the last day of March”.
I honestly strongly disagree. March is March. When I placed my order, the product page clearly said "Estimated to begin shipment in March 2025." I never saw anything that said "probably going to be delivered in March," I never saw anything promising delivery in March.
I own no Prusa products. I don't know essentially any of the history of Prusa or any other printer company. I frankly don't care about the drama, past or present. That said; when I placed my order, I assumed shipment of the very first kit would likely be late in the month of March. Having placed my order later in February, I knew I wouldn't be seeing any shipment confirmation likely for a couple of months. In my opinion, it says more about the folks complaining that these kits didn't ship early or mid-March than it does about Prusa. They have not (yet) broken their estimated target to begin shipments. If someone purchased one on a fiscal year budget that expired in March, that's their own ridiculously poor planning, inability to read, or irresponsibility. I've played the year end funding game many times in my life; it is YOUR responsibility, not your vendor's - regardless of where on earth they're located. And anyone who's danced that dance knows there are often a thousand ways to "blur the lines" to utilize those funds despite delivery delays for purchases made in good faith.
Now...I definitely don't think Prusa is handling the situation in the best possible way; they could absolutely be more transparent about where things are at. They could at least estimate batch numbers and let waitlist purchases know where they fall, even if those batches don't have an associated ship date yet. I'd say they could ballpark estimated batch ship dates, but it seems like half the people here are unable to comprehend the concept of an *estimate* and they'd just upset those people further.
If anyone here purchased a yet-to-be-released product that was CLEARLY listed with an ESTIMATED *BEGINNING* of shipments and they're upset about the supposed "delay," I have no pity for them. That's on the buyer, 100%.
For whatever it's worth, I just canceled my order, so anyone who purchased after 2/22 got a free bump in line. My cancellation has absolutely nothing to do with the delivery timeline, because I understand "estimated to begin shipment" means not only is that only *the beginning,* but it's also an *estimate.* I chose to cancel precisely because of Prusa's handling of this release. Like I said, I don't know their history, or how past releases have gone. But now that I'm seeing "bought with my own money" reviews revealing issues that none of the pre-release "sponsored" reviewers either encountered or chose to reveal, I have to hesitate a little. Seeing Prusa's absolute lack of response to any of these problems puts a bad taste in my mouth, but again, I fully expect hiccups and bugs with a new product release. I knew when I placed my order that it would take many weeks to get, and that I would probably be helping iron out the growing pains. The nail for me was seeing the "prototype" MMU's for the Core One. MMU capability influenced my printer choice, even if it was just a promise for the future. The "prototypes" to me simply scream "We're not even trying!" and that combined with their lack of transparency on kit shipments, and their apparent unwillingness to even acknowledge user problems with the complete build Core Ones - I've decided Prusa isn't for me at this point. Maybe some point in the future, but not today.
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
The damn for Prusa printers keeps going up. I am amazed every time they release sales numbers
Apparently Prusa have still been growing, but well below market growth rate. Which means that they continue to fall behind Bambu regarding economy of scale. And that shows, of course. It shows in the hardware design and manufacturing of Prusa's printers, and in the limited firmware and software development effort they can afford. Bambu can just amortize that over much larger unit numbers, and the gap continues to widen.
I am still buying a Prusa printer (and I will keep it if it does well what it is advertised to do). But I would not buy any Prusa shares if those were on offer.
YoY market grow rate for entry level 3D printers has been 28% in 2024. Prusa grew by 25% in 2024 (and in 2023 too). Part of the Prusa growth is in other market segments. But despite that it's still very good performance and Prusa is still 5th biggest global player in entry level segment.
And it's fine that there are Bambu, Creality and others. Because in the relatively small city in the middle of the Europe it's more complicated to grow a tech company fast. It takes months to acquire new facilities, build production infrastructure, hire people, etc. Chinese companies has much more much and cheaper resources available. And too much demand can actually suffocate Prusa because it may not be able to grow fast enough.
Prusa had to start outsourcing filament production and start selling Buddy filaments because they can't keep up scaling Prusament production. And similar thing we see in 3D printers segment. Overwhelming amount of Core One preorders queue even after like a half of the year since launch isn't great. Congrats to Prusa for this overwhelming success which many other companies can only dream about. But if Prusa printers became a luxury product for which you have to wait two months or more, then it won't satisfy many customers. This forum shows how impatient many of them are. I hope Prusa will catch up production and get to more reasonable lead times soon.
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
You've been heard, clearly and repeatedly across every possible thread now. Would you please consider putting a pause on your relentless handwringing for a bit? Let's acknowledge that though we may not understand or agree with Prusa's chosen methods of communication, we do not have influence or control over it. If you find yourself typing the same thing over and over again, it might be time to reflect on your own chosen communication methods, which you do actually have control over, and ponder whether those might be just as (un)helpful as Prusa's chosen method. 🤔
-J
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
YoY market grow rate for entry level 3D printers has been 28% in 2024. Prusa grew by 25% in 2024 (and in 2023 too). Part of the Prusa growth is in other market segments. But despite that it's still very good performance and Prusa is still 5th biggest global player in entry level segment.
I have seen different numbers -- 40% YoY growth for Chinese 3D printer production alone, and I'd say the entry level 3D printer segment only consists of Prusa, Chinese manufacturers, and a few boutique brands with negligible revenue.
But we don't seem to disagree in our overall assessment. I did not mean to say that Prusa will go bankrupt next year. But they are falling behind in the ability to make highly integrated, user-friendly "3D printing appliances", and I am pretty sure that is where the bulk of the market is heading.
I expect Prusa will try and move upmarket, into affordable industrial printers where the unit numbers are not large enough to be attractive for the likes of Bambu. (I.e. continue the direction they have taken with the Trilab acquisition and the HT90.) I wish them success!
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
So, with the last day of this month now zero workdays away -- when can we expect more precise information to become available?
Plenty of people would say there are three working days till end of March - I'll even meet some of them when I walk to shops tomorrow.
The situation is a case of they will be wrong whatever they do, and that includes if they delayed announcing/opening for orders.
Yes it is irritating we don't know what is happening, but that is all it is.
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This is quite an entertaining forum to catch up on, it’s like a rollercoaster of emotion. I’m not making light of the frustration and I empathise with those impatient, as do I with those defending Prusa. I am very eager to get a Core One kit and was very close to pulling the trigger on a pre-order but fought myself to hold off and wait. As having been on enough kickstarters and preorders in the past, I know the deal and I hate waiting. Also it's clear this is going to be a relatively complex build with plenty teething issues to work out in the coming months hence the time Prusa need to get it right. I do enough troubleshooting at my job I don’t need my hobby to turn into a chore as I try and work through multiple factors that could be wrong. I have great respect for everyone who has preordered, and will essentially be the larger cohort beta build testers. Thank you for your time and please make sure you add plenty of comments to the build guide to save the the rest of us the heart ache. A very genuine thank you in advance
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
[...] it might be time to reflect on your own chosen communication methods [...]
Fair enough. I am not going to convince the dyed-in-the-wool Prusa fans anyway. All other readers, as well as the search engines and their AI summaries, have ample material to form a balanced view now. So let's see how things play out.
RE: The Core One Kit Waiting List
There was an attempt to point out that it is a pre-order with a non-guaranteed launch. Conditions you know before you buy. They also tried to point out that Prusa's estimates are always very optimistic and that shipping is unlikely to start before the end of March, very, very late March.
This was not done to defend Prusa but to help those who might be buying a Prusa printer for the first time to avoid unnecessary stress.
It is simply that they are overrun and even if they try really hard they are not always in control of the situation.
I myself am rather impatient, and I think that a few lines would calm most of the resentment. It's not that I don't understand you, but unfortunately it doesn't help to keep nagging here.
Even the small problems with the Core One will be solved. I don't think anything is really hardware-related. A forum is simply a collection point for things that don't work.
Why should Prusa be any different? Anyone who believes this perhaps has too high expectations of this company.
Take a look at a Bambulab or Creality forum and you might consider buying a printer.
The new H2D is not cheap and has a terrible heating bed. Uneven, does not reach the temperature and heats so differently that nothing holds at the edge. What use is a larger print bed then? I don't even want to talk about 220 V on a moving part. I personally don't like it.
Not everyone gets all the problems that crop up here. I bet the vast majority of people get a flawless printer. Of those I know, all are happy with the Core One.
Enjoy the build of the kit. You'll see that it's absolutely fun and you'll be proud when it prints the first part.
I'm sure afterwards you'll say it was worth the wait. In this sense, just be a little more relaxed about things we can't change.
[...] it might be time to reflect on your own chosen communication methods [...]
Fair enough. I am not going to convince the dyed-in-the-wool Prusa fans anyway. All other readers, as well as the search engines and their AI summaries, have ample material to form a balanced view now. So let's see how things play out.