Reasons to buy from Core One
Key reasons to choose Core One over competitors such as Bambu (P2S, etc.), and factors that justify the price difference. Can you help me?
Best regards
No.
All you will get with a question like that is a shouting match between proponents of each.
All I can say is that I have never regretted buying my Prusa's but if you expect to use either machine without paying attention to material quality and maintenance then forget the whole idea.
Cheerio,
RE: Reasons to buy from Core One
Ok, I will bite...
Technically, you will get the better printer for the money from Bambu these days. Prusa has advantages in other fields:
- Better customer support;
- Printers will be upgradable with future upgrades (no need to buy a new one every other year; more environmentally friendly);
- Relatively open ecosystem;
- Made in Europe (support local economy; avoid China dependence, which may turn into a risk as just witnessed by Nexperia).
How you value these is your decision, of course.
Having said that -- once the INDX multi-nozzle solution becomes available for the Core One, there may be a direct product advantage for Prusa: Bambu Lab have only announced their similar Vortek solution for the large and expensive H2C and H2D (as an upgrade) so far. So if the build volume of the Core One is large enough for you, it may actually be the lower cost "fast and low-waste multi-color/multi-material" solution. But that combination is not available yet, and Bambu might offer a similar product in the future by adding their Vortek to the X1C platform.
RE: Reasons to buy from Core One
I think Bambu Lab releases new printer models very quickly, which can make older ones seem obsolete, raising concerns about long-term support and maintenance. I hope to keep the printer operational for 6–7 years
RE: Reasons to buy from Core One
That's part of the problem with Prusa though. They seem to only release something new every 2-3 years so they are continuously lagging behind. The Core One should have been released 3 years ago. Instead they kept tweaking the Mk3/4 at time when bed-slingers where already on the way out.
RE: Reasons to buy from Core One
Můj názor je ten, že tiskárna působí vzhledově velmi dobře, má zajímavě řešený design, který je vizuálně přitažlivý, působí moderně, což věřím že ocení mnozí uživatelé.
U této 3D tiskárny je ale bohužel patrné, že konstrukce není úplně pevná. Chybí jí celoobvodový rám, který by držel všechno pohromadě. Osobně její konstrukci nevnímám jako dostatečně stabilní, protože i malá nestabilita se může projevit na kvalitě tisku, pokud se něco trochu hýbe nebo vibruje, výsledek už není tak přesný, jak by měl být. Software dokáže mnohé doladit, ale moc toho nezmůže, když základní konstrukce není dostatečně stabilní.
Všechno, co má fungovat přesně, musí stát na pevném základu. Spojené díly sice drží, ale nikdy to není tak pevné a stabilní jako rám, který obepíná celou tiskárnu a drží ji pohromadě jako celek.
RE: Reasons to buy from Core One
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My opinion is that the printer looks very good, it has an interesting design that is visually appealing, it looks modern, which I believe many users will appreciate.Unfortunately, it is noticeable with this 3D printer that the structure is not completely solid. It lacks a full-length frame that would hold everything together. Personally, I do not perceive its structure as stable enough, because even a small instability can affect the quality of the print, if something moves or vibrates a little, the result is no longer as accurate as it should be. The software can fine-tune a lot, but it cannot do much if the basic structure is not stable enough.Everything that is to work accurately must stand on a solid foundation. The connected parts do hold, but it is never as solid and stable as the frame that surrounds the entire printer and holds it together as a whole.
Můj názor je ten, že tiskárna působí vzhledově velmi dobře, má zajímavě řešený design, který je vizuálně přitažlivý, působí moderně, což věřím že ocení mnozí uživatelé.
U této 3D tiskárny je ale bohužel patrné, že konstrukce není úplně pevná. Chybí jí celoobvodový rám, který by držel všechno pohromadě. Osobně její konstrukci nevnímám jako dostatečně stabilní, protože i malá nestabilita se může projevit na kvalitě tisku, pokud se něco trochu hýbe nebo vibruje, výsledek už není tak přesný, jak by měl být. Software dokáže mnohé doladit, ale moc toho nezmůže, když základní konstrukce není dostatečně stabilní.
Všechno, co má fungovat přesně, musí stát na pevném základu. Spojené díly sice drží, ale nikdy to není tak pevné a stabilní jako rám, který obepíná celou tiskárnu a drží ji pohromadě jako celek.
RE: Reasons to buy from Core One
Key reasons to choose Core One over competitors such as Bambu (P2S, etc.), and factors that justify the price difference. Can you help me?
Best regards
The key statement: "that justify the price difference."
You can't. For example, you can't justify the price for a Porche or Ferrari when all the cheaper cars make it to the office parking lot each day for work. ALL the cars seem to make it to work each day, even terrible looking rusty wreaks. So it gets down to what you enjoy and what you can afford.
If there was only one correct answer, we would not have so many brands of 3D printers, and so many brands of cars.
For ANY (insert: 3D Printer, Car, Camera, Boat, airplane, golf club set....) there are tons of choices, and each person claims that their model is the best.
This is because each of us enjoy or prioritize different features, aspects, shapes, colors, relationships, etc.
The right answer is ALWAYS the one that YOU choose to buy.
Cheers,
Neal
RE: Reasons to buy from Core One
It’s not common to go to work in a Ferrari, but maybe the better analogy is whether the higher price of a Toyota or Honda is really worth it compared to a Kia or Hyundai.
Key reasons to choose Core One over competitors such as Bambu (P2S, etc.), and factors that justify the price difference. Can you help me?
Best regards
The key statement: "that justify the price difference."
You can't. For example, you can't justify the price for a Porche or Ferrari when all the cheaper cars make it to the office parking lot each day for work. ALL the cars seem to make it to work each day, even terrible looking rusty wreaks. So it gets down to what you enjoy and what you can afford.
If there was only one correct answer, we would not have so many brands of 3D printers, and so many brands of cars.For ANY (insert: 3D Printer, Car, Camera, Boat, airplane, golf club set....) there are tons of choices, and each person claims that their model is the best.
This is because each of us enjoy or prioritize different features, aspects, shapes, colors, relationships, etc.
The right answer is ALWAYS the one that YOU choose to buy.Cheers,
Neal
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Yes, the shaking doesn't feel right.
I usually keep 25 kg of floor tiles piled on top of the printer (making it somewhat less "visually appealing" but let's be honest, the "enclosed" MMU version never was. Best buried underneath something heavy).
I haven't done any systematic study on VFAs but it seems the logical thing to do after paying for 0.9 degree steppers. "Boundary conditions: enforce zero displacement" 🙂
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OK here are mine:
- a higher-than average chance it'll can be kept running for a decade without short-lived hi-tech parts going EOL. No reliance on cloud services and no "disposable electronics" that can't be repaired if broken or worn.
- I assembled it myself so I can fix it (and already did once, after a dumb user error regarding temperature). Seems weird, pay a premium over competitors so I can assemble it myself instead of letting them do the work for me. And it's not exactly an enjoyable build. Unintuitive but I'm still convinced this was the right decision.
- old-school UI. The shallower learning curve of competitors matters little in the long run.
- Print quality after tuning
- Open-source. I'm not planning to hack it but open source guarantees software can never get too annoying for corporate profit.
RE: Reasons to buy from Core One
TL;DR; Not regretting owning a Prusa but wish it did more.
To add to this... I don't like selling things, I either hang onto it (i.e. back of the closet) or I end up giving it away. So my Core One started life as a MK4. So after owning 4 printers (first was an Ender 3 which I gave away) due to upgrades I still only possess one. I do have a pre-order on a SnapMaker U1 as a hedge against the INDX not happening. But as far as printers go with Prusa and upgrades, it's like Highlander "There can be only one". I do own an SLA printer now but that's different.
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The product support for my MK3 was great, several hardware came out over the years and they fixed and upgraded the firmware with new features over many years. I appreciate that they work with the product over time, instead of the chinese way of working which is releasing a new product to fix the old product. I also like the repairability, documentation and open source, which will make it work as long as I want. My old MK3 found a new home and is still punching out great prints every week.
For some the price is super important, i get that, though i gladly pay a little extra to have a product that is developed and produced in europe. Its still not that much money for a tool that I can use for a long time, not more than a set of tyres which I will kill in a few track days 🙂
As a bonus i could build it myself, I would probably pay more for a kit than assembled if I had to 🙂
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being a chinese living in china, I just don't want Xi to know what i am printing...
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being a chinese living in china, I just don't want Xi to know what i am printing...
Makes sense but then unless you are printing anti-CPC propaganda, I don't think he cares about you printing a Benchy. I do all my printing through PrusaConnect which sends my files over the internet and back again to the printer. However I can use PrusaLink or OctoPrint instead and send directly to the printer. Bambu printers still support and offline mode if I'm not mistaken.
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exactly, as long as I can make the machine work independently from a functioning network connection, cloud is not a major point for me. My major reason for choosing Prusa is the continuous upgrade policy. I simply like the concept, versus buying a complete new system every few years.
Now, if they at least could get their QA under control again ....