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FoxRun3D
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A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

This is not mean as a "review", just a stream of consciousness after a few days of printing with the CORE One, mostly PETG and ASA. Like any new model, this one has quirks, which I'm sure Prusa will work out through firmware upgrades and improved parts. Its current state reminds me of my XL (one of the first to ship), which had quite a few issues when it arrived but is now a wonderful printer. 

So far, it's a resounding "meh". In my eyes, the Mk4S was an evolutionary dead-end street. Marginal improvements over the Mk4, without addressing some major issues such as less-than-perfect "always-perfect" first layers for myself and what seems many other people (as judged by Github reports). I was hoping the CORE One would be a major step forward but it just doesn't feel that way. It's a bit of a Frankenprinter. Obviously, it's a Core XY design, but for better or worse, Prusa wanted to provide an upgrade path from the Mk4S, so there's still that legacy everywhere. The XL with its tool changer and large volume was "wow". The CORE One still feels like a MK4S, in an enclosure. 

Looks are fine; nice orange accents against a metal black background. But after a few days, I can't shake this thought that it reminds me of the Boston City Hall, in its Modern Brutalism look and feel. Its design language seems to cater to the typical Prusa enthusiast/tinkerer more than the target audience for, say, BL machines, with their sleek industrial design looks.

While the heavy use of metal makes the printer look sturdy, some aspects of the build are less impressive. Side and top panels are held in place by what I can only describe as super cheap rivets. The fact that they include a whole package of 50 spares should tell you enough. In fact, my machine arrived with more than half of them popped out during transport. The top slider to let air in for PLA and PETG prints also feels cheap and wobbly. The metal crossbar in front blocks view of the hotend when the sheet is close to the top and makes it a tad harder to reach the nozzle to remove debris. 

The side "pockets" are an interesting design decision. Fine, maybe even great, for people for whom this is their only printer. But for anyone with a row of them next to each other, it's not going to be convenient (so far I have only one but more are coming to replace my Mk4S's). I've seen some cool ideas on Printables for using the left pocket to store stuff, but again, that's great if it's your only machine and you have easy access to all sides but doesn't work too well if the next printer sits right adjacent to it. After a fews days of printing I'm in the process of contemplating options to feed filament from above instead of the side, which I don't find convenient. Plus, the small PTFE tube that acts as the filament intake sits in my opinion too close to the edge of the printer, and with full spools I've had several situations where the filament jumped off the right side of the spool when trying to load it. 

The CORE One is the first Prusa printer that comes with an integrated enclosure. Thankfully I haven't had any reason yet to find out how much harder that makes it to fix things.  Functionally, the enclosure seems to work well. For my ASA prints, it kept a nice steady internal temperature. Some interesting changes to the startup gcode. The printer will now wait for a certain minimum chamber temp, while the nozzle temperature is going down to a lower idle temperature, as defined in Filament Properties. It also goes through the same bed heat assimilation step as the XL. For the XL, I see the point of it, here with the smaller bedsize, I'm not so sure. I've skipped it a couple of times, without any obvious issues (but it may be crucial for good first layer performance, see below).

They really skimped on the lighting inside the enclosure, which is minimal; a few more LEDs wouldn't have hurt at that price point. 

One excellent design change is that they ditched the Abominable Print Fan of the Mk4S. Now it's possible again to watch the nozzle and see what it's doing, and to get easy access to the nozzle for cleaning purposes.

Another good design element is the spring mechanism used by the front door. It offers a satisfying bit of resistance when you open the door. Less great is that the door handle is apparently metal. I haven't figured out yet how to replace it. My printers are "color-coded", so I like to reprint parts in different colors and add color accents to any add-ons, but it looks as if I'm stuck with an orange door handle for all of my printers.

Now why the door sensor is on by default so that the machine complains when you open the door is beyond me. It was the first thing I turned off. Otherwise the software is pretty much the same it was on the Mk4S or XL, easy to use and functional. Setting it up in PrusaSlicer and connecting it to PrusaConnect was straightforward. I use ethernet, so I can't comment on wifi, NFC, etc.

Print quality has been very nice so far. I've seen reports of VFAs but I can't claim to have that problem—or my eyes are just not able to pick them up anymore. The only issue I've come across in my limited testing is some bad horizontal top surfaces on my ASA prints. May require adjusting print profiles a bit. 

Can't say anything about speed as that's something I don't pay much attention to. It's plenty fast for my purposes, and certainly prints as fast as my MK4S. It comes with a HF nozzle, which I will replace with Obxidian soon, like I use on all my other printers. I do a fair bit of PCCF printing, so that's one less thing to worry about as I can use the same nozzle for everything.

It is definitely louder than my Mk4S machines, I suspect due to the resonating enclosure. I haven't put it on a paver yet to see if that makes a difference as I'm waiting for Prusa Support to send me the anti-vibration feet that were missing in my package. At this point it's sitting on felt feet. It doesn't help that the firmware for it doesn't have the fix for the excessive homing yet that they just rolled out in the firmware upgrade for their other models. I understand they're also working on additional firmware improvements to help with the vibrations.

Still waiting for the camera and filter. I've seen several third-party options for attaching filters, but I think I will just wait a few more weeks for the official solution; I have neither time or desire to worry about adjusting fan speeds. I haven't figured out a good way to attach one of the Wyze webcams I use to monitor my printers. I have ordered a Buddy Cam, and hopefully by the time it arrives they have figured out how to do live feeds instead of snapshots. One reason I love the Wyze cams is that they continuously  record onto an SD card, so if something goes wrong I can rewind and see if I can figure out what was happening.

At this point I haven't done any systematic testing of print quality, as I was focused on using it to get stuff printed that I had to get out of the door. And I'm not really into running speed tests, tests for overhang performance etc etc (I've never printed a Benchy in my life!); happy to leave this to others. I know what I usually print and don't need to worry about this stuff much.  

But I will do some testing this weekend of the CORE One's first layer performance, which has been abysmal on all my three Mk4S's, with a constant need to adjust live Z down for PETG to get good performance on fine first layer details and up for PLA prints to avoid waves. Interestingly, this has not been an issue with my XL so my hope is that the CORE One—being a Core XY machine—will mirror the XL's excellent performance in that category. 

The other open question is the MMU3. I really, really, hope they come up with a solution that doesn't require three times the space of the printer for the spools and buffer. There have been suggestions for a top mounted approach, which would be perfect, but I'm afraid Prusa wants to get something out quick rather than great.  I may keep a Mk4S, just for the MMU3. I'm not a heavy user of it (the XL is just much faster for multi material and multi color) but when I used it, it worked great and reliably, unlike other solutions I tried before (the MMU2 and the Mosaic Palette). 

So TL;DR, it's been — fine. Didn't have any major issues (short of some stuff like power cable and Haribo missing from my box). Print quality looks nice so far. The enclosure does the job. Some good, some not so good design decisions. I'm just not getting super excited about it. It's feels like just another printer, without the "wow, that's FUN" feeling I experience every time I use the XL, even after more than a year. If this had been the successor to the Mk3S, I would probably be psyched, but the Mk4/Mk4S generation in between has worn me down, and the CORE One is clearly a descendant of it.

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Posted : 21/02/2025 7:27 pm
Jeroen
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RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

Thanks for this! I've ordered a Core One kit to replace my geriatric mk2(.5'ish+mmu2s Frankenprinter) which is on its last legs. So the prospect of getting up to mk4s-level of printing definitely has me excited.

Posted : 21/02/2025 7:53 pm
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Blake
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RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

Same thoughts here. For folks that have farms, the left and right side indents are basically going to be useless unless you keep null space between them. They aren't as stackable either as MK3/4 in the enclosure.

My other big complaint is the nozzle cleaning: just about every print it fails.

Also have a camera on order, wish they would do a PoE version.

Posted : 21/02/2025 8:13 pm
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FoxRun3D
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Topic starter answered:
RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

I've had one nozzle cleaning failure, with PETG, and yes, there was a bit of debris on the nozzle. I removed it, it did fine this time, but yes, this seemed more sensitive than my Mk4's would have been. 

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Posted : 21/02/2025 8:19 pm
Blake
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RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

Had it once on PLA, mostly on PETG, same amount of debris as on MK4S's usually, so yeah, more sensitive for sure.

Posted : 21/02/2025 8:27 pm
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Brian
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RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

Thanks for the great overview.  Even though I ordered within the first hour I won't get my machine for another month probably because I added the Filtration system and camera to my order.  I figured that'd give them time to fix some of the teething issues that are currently being experienced. 

I plan on rerouting the filament to the top as you've mentioned because of how the filament comes out of my electronic dry boxes.  Please share whatever you come up with as is be interested to see. 

Mt plan is to drill thru and install a magnetic fitting along the top angular side of the printer.  That's what I did on my Prusa enclosures and it's worked out well.  I guess we'll see when I get it. 

Posted : 21/02/2025 9:12 pm
FoxRun3D
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Topic starter answered:
RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

My current thinking is to go the least destructive route and use one of those twist connectors ( https://www.printables.com/model/873440) that I use on my MMU, to extend the small PTFE intake tube on the C1 to go up to my spool rack/dry box. Need to see if I can do that without bending the longer PTFE tube too much.. 

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Posted : 21/02/2025 10:41 pm
Brian
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RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

 

Posted by: @foxrun3d

My current thinking is to go the least destructive route and use one of those twist connectors ( https://www.printables.com/model/873440) that I use on my MMU, to extend the small PTFE intake tube on the C1 to go up to my spool rack/dry box. Need to see if I can do that without bending the longer PTFE tube too much.. 

Unfortunately the link isn't working. 

Here's what I did on the Original Enclosure.  The fitting is just magnetically held there and I have 6 different filaments ready to go that I just swap Bowden tubes.  I took a design I saw on printables and modified it.  Then designed the dock for the enclosure. 

I'm going to do something similar. 

Posted : 21/02/2025 10:55 pm
FoxRun3D
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Topic starter answered:
RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

It's the same thing I linked too. Stupid forum software automagically includes trailing periods, parentheses etc in a URL 😩 it's a feature.  AS: Artificial Stupidity. 

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Posted : 21/02/2025 11:49 pm
andhson
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RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

Thanks for a good recap. I am still waiting for mine to arrive and being a first printer seeing the trouble some seem to face is a bit concerning, but things should be fixable or at least hackable, it is a new platform and I expect it will evolve as we figure out the weaknesses.

/Anders

Posted : 22/02/2025 9:19 am
iftibashir
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RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

Some good points raised. I will also switch off the door switch as one of my first jobs! I don't see why you would want to pause the print every time you open the door. 

I agree with the whole layout thing - the spool holder being on one side etc. It also seems to be where they intend for the MMU buffer to go as well, which I will find an issue since my printer sits in the corner of the room, so I have no access to the rear or to the spool side. I have a shelf above the printer for spool placement, hence why I just want to place my MMU on top of the core one so it is easily serviceable etc. Need to consider buffer options though......I'm hoping there will be an option to move it to the other side of the printer, where I have easy access.......

Is the filament in feed on the actual side of the printer itself - or in from the top rear corner?

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Posted : 23/02/2025 8:21 pm
Dschey
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RE: A few thoughts after four days with the CORE One

Regarding the failing nozzle cleaning process of the CORE One see here a full thread: https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-core-one-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/nozzle-cleaning-consistently-fails-with-petg/paged/3/

Prusa Support is aware of the issue and the next firmware update shall address it according one member. I sincerely hope it will get fixed. I have the same issue with almost 90% of prints with PETG, independent of the used filament (brand, new, old, dryed,...). This is extremely annoying and I've never experienced such a problem with all my 3D printers (Prusa and others) in the last 12 years!

Posted : 15/03/2025 3:52 pm
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Daniel
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RE:

I have a constant 'nozzle cleaning error' with Varioshore TPU. I'm trying to print it with MVS 4 because I printed it on MK3s without any problem. If I insist to retry after nozzle cleaning error it will take 2-3 times then it will try to start to print. But just before starting printing (nozzle in the middle of the bed) it will stop asking for a 'filament changing'. After I 'change the filament' (in fact just uploading and loading the same filament) the nozzle cleaning error will appear again!

I don't have this error with Polymaker PolyFlex TPU-95A HF even printing it with MVS of 5-6.

This makes me think about the filament stiffness and probably other properties + HF nozzle that 'help' this error to appear. 

Any experience with TPU?

Thanks

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Posted : 22/03/2025 12:12 pm
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