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Bruce
(@bruce-5)
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Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

I am posting in hopes it helps someone not find new curse words like I did. Prusa, YOU REALLY NEED STEP UP YOUR FREAKING QC ... Love your printers, hate your current support and hate your current lack of QC. On to the fix for this issue ...

Got my 5T XL, first 4 tools worked fine. 5th tool was blinking yellow. The sequence is, turn printer on, wait a few seconds, all tools light up with a BLUE light, then after a few more seconds go to GREEN...EXCEPT if the printer does not detect a tool being docked it will be YELLOW.

This was my issue, tool 5 had YELLOW light after boot.

At first Prusa sent me a replacement cable that is part of the "Nextruder cable bundle" for tool 5. After waiting week+ and ZERO, NOTTA, NO FREAKING MORE COMMUNICATION FROM THEM DESPITE ME ASKING 5 TIMES FOR SOME SORT OF CONFIRMATION, I finally received the cable that is part of the replacement "Nextruder cable bundle". ALTHOUGH I had asked for the entire bundle, which if they had sent would have made this all a non-issue, read on ...

Replaced the cable into "Nextruder cable bundle" with the new cable and no-go ... still had YELLOW light.

Through more diagnosing on my own vs sitting for 2 hours to get a tech then another 1+ hour screwing around with them, then waiting who knows how long before getting a part, I finally figured out the issue AND FIXED it (albeit via unorthodox means).

There is a small magnet in an aluminum upright piece that the tool docks into (see pic with purple circle). The tool needs to detect this magnet to know it is docked. If the tool does NOT detect this magnet AND thinks the tool should be docked, it will show a YELLOW light. See picture with purple circle around where the small magnet is.

I tested each of these small magnets in the upright piece the tool docks into, for each extruder using another magnet I had. I was checking for polarity (or whatever it is called with a magnet).

For the first 4 tools the magnets all had the same polarity. The 5th tool had the magnet IN BACKWARDS AND THE POLARITY WAS REVERSED.

So QC screwed up (this was a fully assembled printer, I did NOT install this magnet). Funny how the QC sheet says it was tested. Yes, I am bitter, but bear with me and you will see how to solve it.

There is no sanctioned way that I could see to remove the backwards magnet, so this is where is gets "FUN" 🙂 ...

Take the "Nextruder cable bundle" off the printer that is not working - the one the tool was connected too that had a YELLOW light.

When you are calibrating the dock position, there are two small bolts they tell you to loosen and retighten. REMOVE THESE SMALL BOLTS AND PULL THE PIECE OFF from the bundle. See pic with red circles around the bolts to remove.

Then take a 1/16 drill bit made for metal/aluminum and on the side where you removed the small bolts, line up with the SMALL magnet on the other side, being careful to NOT be too close to the hole the tool docks in (has a white-ish sleeve) and drill THREE QUARTERS THRU (NO MORE THAN THAT OR YOU WILL DRILL THRU THE MAGNET). I said to line up, but I actually offset about a millimeter to not damage the white-ish sleeved hole the tool docks into. Drill very slow - do NOT GO FAST. If you damage this piece that might be hard to justify to support.  I cannot emphasize enough, YOU ARE TAKING A RISK WITH WHAT I DID.

Once you have this hole, take a small punch and a small hammer and put the punch into the hole and tap the small magnet out. Now, for me, I had scratched the magnet with the drill bit when drilling, so I knew that was the side I wanted facing outward.

Take the small magnet you have removed, reverse it, and press-fit it back in using small pliers. Be careful to not damage the aluminum riser it is in.

Remount the piece you removed earlier (the one you took off when removing the two small bolts), this covers the hole you drilled so you won't even see the hole.  Make sure you put it back on correctly, look at the other tool assemblies.

Now re-install the whole "Nextruder cable bundle" that you had removed, re-install the tool, AND DING DONG BAM BOOM the tool should light GREEN when you turn the printer on and after it does its start-up sequence.

Of course I could have damaged multiple things with these small parts and using a drill, SO BE FREAKING CAREFUL. I realize not everyone might want to go to this effort, but it worked and fixed it. So I spent 2-3 hours figuring this out and fixing it, which would be about the time I would have spent with Prusa's sucky support, BUT I did not have to wait for a new part and hope that was the solution - it's fixed and as I'm typing all this I am printing with all 5 colors. BOOYAH, WAHOO.

I (sort of) apologize for my attitude with this post, you don't know me, I am not normally like this, but after spending $4,000+ and waiting TWO years and experiencing horrible support, I have an attitude - I am sure it will dissipate over time.

POSTIVE - I DO LIKE THE PRINTER - I DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE BOMB. There is a lot of tuning needing done for materials, initial print sequence, etc. to fine-tune it, but that part I went in sort of expecting as I have 7 other printers, 4 of them from Prusa.

Now to see if the moderator deletes this post or allows it to stand as it shows how to fix a maddening problem for which their is no clear fix ... or if there is, please do point it out to me and I will happily say "sorry".

Hi Josef.

Bruce

HERE ARE THE PICS I REFERENCE ABOVE:

 

Posted : 09/11/2023 2:27 am
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LaForg3
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RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

Thanks had the exact same issue. Magnet on Picture 2 was put in false (factory assembled). You can test this using another magnet. If the small magnet refused the other magnet you have a false mounted magnet and LED won't turn green as Bruce mentioned. I also thought about drilling the thing, but to be honest I waited 2 years for the printer now waiting another week for a replacement dock to arrive. Thanks to Prusa Support they knew what the issue was pretty fast.

Posted : 11/11/2023 4:38 pm
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Bruce
(@bruce-5)
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

Yeah, I did struggle a bit deciding to risk it, but I got to "mad" so went for it and it worked out.  That said, I do not blame you either for waiting, that was my initial tact, but then when they only sent the cable and not the entire "assembly" it torqued me and I didn't want to wait yet another week+ :-).

Good luck when you get the replacement, with a correctly positioned magnet. 🙂

Posted by: @laforg3

Thanks had the exact same issue. Magnet on Picture 2 was put in false (factory assembled). You can test this using another magnet. If the small magnet refused the other magnet you have a false mounted magnet and LED won't turn green as Bruce mentioned. I also thought about drilling the thing, but to be honest I waited 2 years for the printer now waiting another week for a replacement dock to arrive. Thanks to Prusa Support they knew what the issue was pretty fast.

 

Posted : 11/11/2023 10:44 pm
glenobie
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RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

I have the yellow light on one of my tools, but the magnet situation described here is not the culprit. Not sure what the cause is yet.

Posted : 15/11/2023 4:18 pm
glenobie
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Member
RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

Nope. I was wrong. This was exactly my issue. I too removed the magnet and reversed it. Not an easy thing to do. The tool now works splendidly.

Posted : 15/11/2023 5:55 pm
Bruce
(@bruce-5)
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

That's great you were able to get it working - definitely not for the lighthearted to do this, lol, but saves time if you are careful rather than dealing with support. 🙂

Posted by: @glenobie

Nope. I was wrong. This was exactly my issue. I too removed the magnet and reversed it. Not an easy thing to do. The tool now works splendidly.

 

Posted : 15/11/2023 11:36 pm
glenobie
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RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

You deserve a prize from Prusa for debugging this one. Well done!!

Posted : 15/11/2023 11:57 pm
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mdavis0509
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RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

Thank you for this post. After recalibrating my #4 toolhead about 5 times, restarting, and reflashing, I searched for "PRUSA XL toolhead flashing yellow light" and found this thread. I tried the #4 toolhead on my # 5 dock, and the light turned blue! I took a small button magnet and put it on the tiny magnet on the #5 dock. I marked the outward side of the magnet with a Sharpie marker, and let it dry. Then I took the magnet and started to put it on the #4 dock...BAM! It flipped over to the unmarked side. I emailed PRUSA support for a replacement part. I may try the drilling and magnet rotation fix, and will report back if I try it and it works.

I must mention, the frustrating part was the lack of documentation when I searched on the official help website for the problem, because the XL doesn't actually produce an error, it just kind of restarts the docking calibration process without giving you an indication that it was the dock magnet sensor that failed. I think adding this detection error to the firmware would be wonderful.

Posted : 18/11/2023 4:51 am
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LaForg3
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RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

I think Prusa should rather work on their current assembly process regarding this little magnet, then the error message would be obsolete 😀 

Posted : 20/11/2023 7:46 pm
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Bruce
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

That would require them to get their act together again, which I've pretty much given up on at this point, which is a true shame given how elated I've been with their MK3S, but they bit off more than they can chew and are not handling it well, IMO anyway.

Posted : 20/11/2023 7:49 pm
KarmaPolice
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RE: Fixing Yellow Light on Extruder/Tool

Thank you for posting this, was exactly my situation too, probably saved me hours on support with Prusa!!

Posted : 28/11/2023 12:18 am
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