XL Enclosure fan
Do you know which connector and wires need to be used to make the "enclosure fan" working ? I'd like to ventilate my existing enclosure based on internal XL temperature measurements. Cannot figure it out in the current user/build guide, is it even possible without any additional (e.g. sandwich) board ?
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The connector is a 4 circuit Molex Clickmate, available in prepared cable assemblies. This is the 600mm version. The mating receptacle is only available as a board-mounted device, so the XL Enclosure uses two back-to-back receptacles on the sandwich board to extend the blower cable to the Fan1 port. The blower and filter used in the Advanced Filtration System look to be the same as the ones in theXL enclosure.
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Does it mean the fan signal/power is provided by the electronics of sandwitch board and is not available directly on the existing boards/connectors?
Do I need to buy sandwich board to make the fan working?
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Sorry for my confusing post 😔
The existing sandwich board on your XL provides the signals to power and control the fan. The 'XL Enclosure Splitter' board that comes with the XL enclosure provides a convenient place to disconnect the fan when removing the top part of the enclosure, but doesn't alter the signals.
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Thank you for the explanation. Is there a link for a wiring diagram? I mean the darf connector pins description resp. connection of fan wires (+, -, signal).
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Not that I know of. Likely signals would be Ground, 24V, PWM, Tach. but who knows which signal to which pin?
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Hope someone with the already built enclosure can describe the wiring later ...
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I am looking for the same info... Not even sure if the fan is 24V or 5V
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Yes, you are right
... but I still need to know what pin is used for, I mean there is a 4 pin connector, i expect to need +and - 24V, tach and PWM, and I need to know what goes where.
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Pusa uses a blower fan from Alveo3D, so the pinout is probably the industry standard. GND-24v-Tach-PWM. Checkin with a meter, the GND pin is the bottom one in the picture, so I've guessed at the others:
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Well, this is the correct answer, I've tried with some 24V 4 wires noctua fan and it went smooth.
Thanks.
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I've had a chat with support and was told there were some temperature limit changes made in the latest firmware; I am getting weird temp errors as the summer starts. They recommended me to switch on the "enclosure" functionality in the printer menu (solution not guaranteed for unoriginal enclosures), switch-on is however not possible as the fan is not spinning. Thanks for your answers.
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I've also experienced temp related problems. After searching, I realized that I was not the only one, and ended up with this, which solved my problems on both of my XL:
https://www.printables.com/fr/model/913150-xl-mcu-sandwich-buddy-cover-with-fan-and-filter
Hope this can Help.
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Thank you, I have the same (board fan) already applied. My enclosure is however just a box covering the whole printer, so the darf board/mcu temperatures raise up even with the externally controlled fan. What's strange I am getting temp errors even at quite low temperatures <70C sometimes and nice part is this error cannot be confirmed even after the temp is already ok, so only off/on the printer is helping.
My idea is to switch-on the enclosure functionality, therefore increase temp limits, which will hopefully stop the temp issue, will see.
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Must be a big box!
Anyway I wouldn't do that, as I would expect this solution to give too much heat to a lot of electronic, like power supply or other boards. I would anyway consider to have holes int he box and duct fresh air to the electronic, this would help.
as long as you connect a fan, I guess you'll be able to activate the enclosure abilities, But I don't hink this will help you, as this seems to be a overheat issue, and having enclosure don't change temp limits.
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I assembled my enclosure and I'm using the blower fan shown above. That thing can pull up to 12 watts. I want to vent the exhaust out a window, and thought an additional fan would help move the air along a hose. Does anyone know the maximum current supported by the fan header on the Buddy XL? And what connector is that so I can get a splitter?
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Just adding to this thread for those still interested, that success is easy if you follow the digikey links provided above from @ssmith. I use a Sumo Enclosure and used a Noctua 120mm 24v 4-pin PWM with the enclosure settings activated. I wired up the DigiKey's Clickmate to a 4-pin receptacle and it's flawless.
If anyone else is experimenting, I can say I also use a 60mm Buddy Board Cover fan ( https://www.printables.com/model/988450-xl-buddy-board-cover-60mm-fan) because I fully enclosed the back end as well. That fan needs to also be a 4-pin PWM fan. The previous fan I had, was a 2-wire, & using a Y-Splitter (4-4/3)( https://a.co/d/8N0SAwL) it triggered a fan error. Now that I've switched to a 4-pin PWM for both, this setup works golden and hasn't failed me or thrown an error yet.
Considering adding in 2 more 40mm fans, one at each X/Y Stepper too since I have seen others have some wild warping occur from their heat too. To be clear, I'm mostly enclosing to vent all air out of the house since it's a tiny room. I'm not really using it for heated chamber temp management.
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Hi! Which Noctua fan did you try? I bought the NF-F12 24V PWM fan but the plug is different 😭 It has a Molex 4-way 1,25 pitch male and the board accepts the clik-mate 1,5 pitch version...