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Jakub Dolezal
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MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Hi,

Together with the release of the MMU3 upgrade for MK4 & MK3.9, we are also releasing updated printable parts. Please read the following text carefully, it explains all possible MMU3 combinations and describes changes in the printable parts. If you are already running your MMU3 setup, reprinting parts won't bring any significant difference.

MMU3 combinations

  • MMU3 is currently compatible with the following printers:
    • Original Prusa MK3S+
    • Original Prusa MK3.5
    • Original Prusa MK3.9
    • Original Prusa MK4

 

  • The MMU3 consists of 4 major parts:
    1. Spoolholders
    2. Buffer
    3. MMU unit (incl. power/data cable)
    4. MMU parts for the (N)extruder

 

The MMU3 was designed to be compatible with all the printers listed above, however, there are some parts, which are unique to each printer model. For example, if you want to move your MMU3 from MK3S+ to MK4, you have to change the power/data cable, upgrade some printable parts and get parts for the Nextruder.

To make your transition easier, we have prepared these upgrade sets:

  • MK3S+ MMU3 to MK3.5 MMU3 => e-shop link
  • MK3S+ MMU3 to MK4/MK3.9 MMU3 => e-shop link coming soon

 

Printable parts F1/R4

Printable parts from this “MK4 release” iteration are marked either F1 (printed on Prusa farm) or R4 (available on Printables). It's important to note that there is no functional difference between F1 and R4 parts. The different markings are solely intended to help our colleagues from support with eventual troubleshooting.

Now, let's go through the four major MMU parts and explain the differences:

1. Spoolholders

The MMU3 was originally shipped with vacuum-formed spool holders, consisting of steel bearings and aluminum rods. These spool holders are compatible with all supported MMU3 and printer combinations. You can continue using them, even if you move your MMU3 to a different printer.

MMU spoolholders: Vacuum-formed (on the left, yellow arrow) and Injection-molded (on the right, blue arrow)

At the beginning of 2024, we introduced an updated injection-molded variant of the spool holders, offering improved spool arrangement and the ability to connect the holders together. These new holders are compatible with all supported MMU3 and printer combinations, with a small exception. After months of extensive testing, we found that worn wheels could potentially lead to loading issues specifically on MK4 and MK3.9 setups. As a preventive measure, we've upgraded the material of the wheels, and MK4/MK3.9 MMU3 packages will now include these updated wheels. If you're using MK3S+ and MK3.5 setups, there shouldn't be any issues. However, if you're upgrading your existing MK3S+ MMU3 setup to MK4/MK3.9, we recommend changing the wheels (wheels are part of the upgrade package).

 

Conclusion: There are no changes in the MK3S+ and MK3.5 setups. However, for MK4 and MK3.9 setups, it's recommended to change the new spool holder wheel for the injection molded variant (part of the upgrade package).

2. Buffer

The buffer consists of plastic plates and printable parts. During the testing of the MK4/MK3.9, we discovered that the space inside the buffer is slightly smaller than needed. To keep the compatibility across all printers, the plates will remain unchanged, but we have updated the printable parts. Specifically, the cassettes were slightly repositioned outward from the buffer, resulting in increased internal capacity.

Leg (R4)

There is no change to this part, no need to reprint existing setup.

 

Plate-holder (R4)

There is no change to this part, no need to reprint existing setup.

 

Printer-holder (R4)

There is no change to this part, no need to reprint existing setup.

 

Segment (R4)

If you are upgrading your current MMU3 setup to MK4/MK3.9 you have to reprint this part. Additionally, you'll need to print the Segmenter (R4).

 

Segmenter (R4)

If you are upgrading your current MMU3 setup to MK4/MK3.9 you have to reprint this part. Additionally, you'll need to print the Segment (R4).

 

Wheel (R4)

There is no change to this part, no need to reprint existing setup.

 

Conclusion for Buffer : There are no changes in the MK3S+ and MK3.5 setups. However, for MK4 and MK3.9 setups, it is recommended to use the new cassette design. Cassettes with their updated dock, called segmenter, can be reprinted from PETG.

3. MMU unit

The MMU unit consists of multiple printable and mechanical parts. While there are no changes to the mechanical components (such as motors, pulleys, main MMU board, etc.), nearly every printable part of the MMU unit has been updated. This doesn't mean that you have to reprint your existing MMU unit. These changes primarily focus on improving printability and refining the dimensions of openings, thus allowing for even better assembly. For the MK4/MK3.9 we are introducing a new part, which can be applied to the older setups improving the ESD protection. You can find more information below.

Blade-holder (R4)

This part has been updated, and the new version offers slight improvements in two areas. First, the blades are now slightly tilted to reduce the resistance and the screw is brought closer to the blades to provide more grip. However, if your current blade holder is working fine, there is no need to reprint it. Please note, that this part must be paired with Selector and Pulley-body (both R4).

 

Collet-holder (R4)

There is no functional improvement in this update. The developers have changed only the position of the arrow. If your collet holder is working properly, there is no need to reprint it.

 

Ele-cover (R4)

This part is responsible for securing the MMU control board. The new iteration is improving protection against electrostatic discharge (ESD) together with a new printed part PD-board-cover (described below). During the laboratory tests, we discovered that the MK4/MK3.9 electronics are more sensitive to the ESD. To ensure sufficient protection in all possible conditions, we have updated this part. If your working environment charges you up with “energy”, we recommend updating these two parts on your existing setup. They are compatible with surrounding R3 parts.

 

PD-board-cover (R5)

As described in the previous section, this new cover improves protection against ESD and must be paired (printed together) with Ele-cover (R4).

 

Frame-holder (R4)

There is no functional improvement, there is no need to reprint this part.

 

Front-PTFE-holder (R4)

Based on the feedback from the community, the design of the openings for PTFE tubes was improved. The seams were moved further away from the opening, ensuring easier assembly regardless of whether the part was printed on Prusa farm or at home. Reprinting this part for existing setups is not needed.

 

Idler (R4)

While updating the parts, we have also refreshed the idler. Some users reported that the pin closest to the outside bearing seemed to be too loose. The design was updated and the hole for the pin is now tighter. Updating existing setups is not required unless your pin is loose.

 

Idler-body (R4)

There is no functional improvement, there is no need to reprint this part.

 

Label-plate (R4)

There is no functional improvement in this update, so there is no need to reprint this part. Additionally, the Label-plate is included in all packages because post-processing (labeling) is done at our factory and cannot be easily replicated at home.

 

PTFE-clip (R4)

There is no functional improvement, there is no need to reprint this part.

 

Pulley-body (R4)

Similarly to the Front-PTFE-holder the design of the openings was improved. In this case to enable easier assembly of the smooth rods. Ensuring that the selector will move without any resistance. If your MMU3 unit is working as expected, there is no need to reprint this part.

 

Selector (R4)

The design of the selector is bound to the Blade-holder mentioned earlier. Another change was made to the openings for smooth rods, where the tolerance was tightened to improve the grip of the "golden" bushing tubes.

 

Selector-front-plate (R4)

There is no functional improvement, there is no need to reprint this part.

 

Conclusion for MMU unit: For the existing MK3S+ and MK3.5 setups there is no need to update the parts. The only thing to consider is printing the updated Ele-cover with PD-board-cover. Owners of the MK4/MK3.9 should print the R4 revisions. However, if you have pre-printed the R3 parts, print the R4 versions of the Ele-cover and PD-board-cover.

 

4. MMU parts for the Nextruder

All the parts below are included in the MK4/MK3.9 MMU3 packages, regardless if you have selected MMU3 with or without printed parts. There is no need to print them.

 

Idler-lever-A (R2)

This is a brand new part for the MMU MK4/MK3.9 Nextruder designed to replace the existing lever. Long-term testing has shown that this part performs best when printed from PCCF or similar material, therefore it is printed on Prusa farm and included in all packages. However, an STL file will be available to download on the Printables.

Note that this part is not compatible with the MK3S+ or MK3.5 due to a completely different extruder design.

 

Idler-lever-B (R2)

This is a brand new part for the MMU MK4/MK3.9 Nextruder designed to replace the existing lever. Long-term testing has shown that this part performs best when printed from PCCF or similar material, therefore it is printed on Prusa farm and included in all packages. However, an STL file will be available to download on the Printables.

Note that this part is not compatible with the MK3S+ or MK3.5 due to a completely different extruder design.

 

Idler-nut-FS (R2)

This is a brand new part for the MMU MK4/MK3.9 Nextruder designed to replace the existing filament sensor assembly (ball holder, ball, magnet and spring). Long-term testing has shown that this part performs best when printed from PCCF or similar material, therefore it is printed on Prusa farm and included in all packages. However, an STL file will be available to download on the Printables. This part requires a magnet inserted in the slot; the magnet is part of the package.

Note that this part is not compatible with the MK3S+ or MK3.5 due to a completely different extruder design.

 

Main-plate (R2)

This is a brand new part for the MMU MK4/MK3.9 Nextruder designed to replace the existing main-plate. Long-term testing has shown that this part performs best when printed using the MJF technology, therefore it is included in all packages (1+1 spare). However, an STL file will be available to download on the Printables. Using materials like PETG or PCCF is possible, but may significantly reduce the lifespan of the part.

Note that this part is not compatible with the MK3S+ or MK3.5 due to a completely different extruder design.

 

PG-assembly-adapter (R1)

This part is needed when assembling or servicing the planetary gearbox. Printing at home is possible, however, tighter tolerances are required, therefore this part is included in all MK4 MMU3 packages. STL file is available to download on the Printables.

Note that this part is not compatible with the MK3S+ or MK3.5 due to a completely different extruder design.

 

Screw-guide (R2)

This is a brand new part for the MMU MK4 Nextruder designed for the idler tension screws. It can be printed from PETG, however it is included in the package. STL file will be available to download on the Printables.

Note that this part is not compatible with the MK3S+ or MK3.5 due to a completely different extruder design.

 

Swivel-A (R2)

Brand new part for the MMU MK4 Nextruder designed to replace the existing swivel. Long-term testing has shown that this part performs best when printed from PCCF or similar material, therefore it is printed on Prusa farm and included in all packages. However, an STL file will be available to download on the Printables.

Note that this part is not compatible with the MK3S+ or MK3.5 due to a completely different extruder design.

 

Swivel-B (R2)

Brand new part for the MMU MK4 Nextruder designed to replace the existing swivel. Long-term testing has shown that this part performs best when printed from PCCF or similar material, therefore it is printed on Prusa farm and included in all packages. However, an STL file will be available to download on the Printables.

Note that this part is not compatible with the MK3S+ or MK3.5 due to a completely different extruder design.

 

Conclusion for Nextruder: All necessary printable parts are provided in the package. If you need to replace any of them, it is recommended to use PCCF or similar material. In case of the main-plate it is recommended to get a spare MJF set from our e-shop. You can also print all parts from PETG/ASA, however their resistance against stresses and wear is lower than the original parts from Prusa.

 

Is it possible to mix previous R3 parts with the latest R4 parts?

=> Yes, it is possible with some exceptions.

  • Blade-holder, Pulley-body, Selector - all three parts must be R4
  • Ele-cover, PD-board-cover - both parts must be R4
  • Segmenter, Segment - both parts must be R4

 

Non-printable part: Festo QSM-M5

Existing MMU3 setups already utilize Festo fittings. However, with the introduction of the MK4/MK3.9 MMU3, we are now shipping the same fittings with an increased internal diameter of 2.6 mm. This information is crucial for those upgrading to the MK4/MK3.9 MMU3 from an existing setup. When replacing the old PTFE tube and fittings, it's essential to discard them to avoid any mixing with the new Festo fittings. Your package includes the updated fittings along with the new tube.

 

 

Link to G-codes and STL files:

https://www.printables.com/model/531604-mmu3-printable-parts  

In closing, should you have any questions, feel free to ask. Happy printing!

 

Este debate ha sido modificado el hace 8 months 20 veces por Jakub Dolezal
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Respondido : 09/04/2024 8:01 am
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cupajoe24
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Thank you for this thorough writeup! 

Respondido : 10/04/2024 2:32 pm
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cupajoe24
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

PD-board-cover

I don't see this part posted, was it missed in the upload or am I missing it?

Respondido : 10/04/2024 6:14 pm
Steve
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Thanks for this.

I note though that the "buffer-holder-R4.stl" file is incorrectly mapping to the plate holder.

Respondido : 11/04/2024 12:14 am
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Jeremiah Moss
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Looking for the PD-board-cover as well!

Respondido : 11/04/2024 2:24 am
Jakub Dolezal
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Topic starter answered:
RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

 

Posted by: @cupajoe24

PD-board-cover

I don't see this part posted, was it missed in the upload or am I missing it?

 

Posted by: @steve-6

Thanks for this.

I note though that the "buffer-holder-R4.stl" file is incorrectly mapping to the plate holder.

Both parts uploaded, thank you guys for noticing 🙂 

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Respondido : 11/04/2024 6:51 am
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Philip
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Is PA CF a similar material to PCCF?

THX!

Respondido : 11/04/2024 9:12 am
Jeremiah Moss
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

 

Posted by: @philip-2

Is PA CF a similar material to PCCF?

THX!

PA = Polyamide = Nylon

PC = Polycarbonate

They're different materials.

Respondido : 11/04/2024 11:41 am
Philip
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Similar! Not the same. I just wanted to know if i can use PA CF instead of PC CF.

Respondido : 11/04/2024 3:20 pm
ManelTo
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Me too!

Sorry for my poor English. I try to do my best.

Respondido : 11/04/2024 6:21 pm
Michi
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Conclusion for Nextruder: All necessary printable parts are provided in the package. If you need to replace any of them, it is recommended to use PCCF or similar material. In case of the main-plate it is recommended to get a spare MJF set from our e-shop. You can also print all parts from PETG/ASA, however their resistance against stresses and wear is lower than the original parts from Prusa.

 

If you order the MMU3 with printed parts for the MK4, it would be nice if you could choose the PCCF parts variant for the Nextruder for an additional charge.And I can't find the main plate as an MJF printed part in the online shop.I have an active MMU3 (MK4) order without printed parts from the end of 2023. For PCCF printed parts and MJF, I would like to convert it into an order with printed parts.

Respondido : 11/04/2024 6:47 pm
Philip
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

These parts are in all packages included. Only the MMU3 parts you need to print. 

That's my opinion when I read the instructions. 

Respondido : 11/04/2024 7:13 pm
cupajoe24
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

I can't find the main plate as an MJF printed part in the online shop

I imagine we won't see the printed parts in the shop until they catch up with orders unfortunately

Respondido : 11/04/2024 7:23 pm
JoanTabb
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

during testing, I printed two versions of the plastic parts and they worked fine with the exception that the extruder numbering plate didn't  turn out as nice as the factory inkjet printed versions.
and the power distribution cover was not in the set. 
regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Respondido : 11/04/2024 8:43 pm
cupajoe24
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

I printed two versions of the plastic parts

What did you use to print them? 

Respondido : 11/04/2024 8:47 pm
Jay
 Jay
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

I believe all the PCCF printed parts and the MJF main plate are included with ALL kits, regardless of whether you ordered printed parts or not.

See the note with the Idler lever (and other nextruder parts): "Long-term testing has shown that this part performs best when printed from PCCF or similar material, therefore it is printed on Prusa farm and included in all packages. However, an STL file will be available to download on the Printables."

Posted by: @michi-3

Conclusion for Nextruder: All necessary printable parts are provided in the package. If you need to replace any of them, it is recommended to use PCCF or similar material. In case of the main-plate it is recommended to get a spare MJF set from our e-shop. You can also print all parts from PETG/ASA, however their resistance against stresses and wear is lower than the original parts from Prusa.

 

If you order the MMU3 with printed parts for the MK4, it would be nice if you could choose the PCCF parts variant for the Nextruder for an additional charge.And I can't find the main plate as an MJF printed part in the online shop.I have an active MMU3 (MK4) order without printed parts from the end of 2023. For PCCF printed parts and MJF, I would like to convert it into an order with printed parts.

 

Respondido : 11/04/2024 8:57 pm
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that0neguy
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

Jakub, Will there be any part changes for the enclosure? or instruction updates on that?

Respondido : 11/04/2024 8:58 pm
JoanTabb
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

I used PETG to print the MMU3 parts, 

Main plate, filament sensor, idler parts came with the prusa parts pre printed.

 

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Respondido : 11/04/2024 9:20 pm
Jakub Dolezal
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Topic starter answered:
RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

 

Posted by: @philip-2

Is PA CF a similar material to PCCF?

THX!

We haven't tested the PACF for this specific scenario. You need material, that is capable of withstanding multiple thousands of loads without getting softer, thus allowing, for example, the idler-lever to bend slightly. The parts are in the MMU3 MK4 package, so there is no need to print them at home.

 

Posted by: @michi-3

Conclusion for Nextruder: All necessary printable parts are provided in the package. If you need to replace any of them, it is recommended to use PCCF or similar material. In case of the main-plate it is recommended to get a spare MJF set from our e-shop. You can also print all parts from PETG/ASA, however their resistance against stresses and wear is lower than the original parts from Prusa.

 

If you order the MMU3 with printed parts for the MK4, it would be nice if you could choose the PCCF parts variant for the Nextruder for an additional charge.And I can't find the main plate as an MJF printed part in the online shop.I have an active MMU3 (MK4) order without printed parts from the end of 2023. For PCCF printed parts and MJF, I would like to convert it into an order with printed parts.

All the PCCF parts and the MJF MAIN-PLATE are in the package, regardless of whether you have ordered the MMU3 with or without the printed parts. Any printed part, which is not from PETG or hard to print at home is always included in our products. Moreover, we have included 2 MAIN-PLATES in each package, therefore you should be covered for a long time before needing to get another. I will rephrase the text above, so it is more clear on this topic.

 

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Respondido : 11/04/2024 9:52 pm
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Jeremiah Moss
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RE: MMU3 printable parts R4 (F1)

 

Posted by: @michi-3

Conclusion for Nextruder: All necessary printable parts are provided in the package. If you need to replace any of them, it is recommended to use PCCF or similar material. In case of the main-plate it is recommended to get a spare MJF set from our e-shop. You can also print all parts from PETG/ASA, however their resistance against stresses and wear is lower than the original parts from Prusa.

 

If you order the MMU3 with printed parts for the MK4, it would be nice if you could choose the PCCF parts variant for the Nextruder for an additional charge.And I can't find the main plate as an MJF printed part in the online shop.I have an active MMU3 (MK4) order without printed parts from the end of 2023. For PCCF printed parts and MJF, I would like to convert it into an order with printed parts.

 

From everything I've read - all of the Nextruder parts are included without an additional charge.

 

Posted by: @joantabb

during testing, I printed two versions of the plastic parts and they worked fine with the exception that the extruder numbering plate didn't  turn out as nice as the factory inkjet printed versions.
and the power distribution cover was not in the set. 
regards Joan

The PD board cover should be in the set now, it was missing before.

You don't need to print the main plate, it will come with the MMU3. If you use a piece you printed yourself with the MMU3 (and you do a lot of multi-material printing), you will likely need to replace it frequently.

Respondido : 11/04/2024 9:53 pm
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