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nicole.l
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MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

Hi All,

I bought my printer and assembled it this week. It's passed all of the calibration tests up until the "Test Extruder" step in the flowchart. When I start to test the filament loading, the plastic comes out for a few moments and then after that, it starts to liquify and bubble out around the hotend. It steams/smokes, smells awful and just drips from the hotend.

Here are some gifs of it doing its thing.


Any ideas what might be going on? Could it be the filament? Did I connect something incorrectly?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Napsal : 24/05/2017 8:44 pm
PJR
 PJR
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

The nozzle has not been tightened according to instructions...

Peter

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Napsal : 24/05/2017 9:04 pm
nicole.l
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

The nozzle has not been tightened according to instructions...

Peter

Where in the instructions does it tell me to tighten the nozzle? I do not remember seeing any instructions for that.

Napsal : 24/05/2017 9:07 pm
cory.w
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

What temp do you have it at?!

Napsal : 24/05/2017 9:49 pm
mark.s23
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

To confirm, in the MK2S instructions there's no specific guidance on tightening the nozzle. I assume it's not required as mine came torqued up.

Napsal : 24/05/2017 11:48 pm
Nigel
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

Hotend too hot. Moisture in the filament, extruder motor, hobbed nut, etc not in alignment .

Moisture in the filament causes spitting and fumes. Filament should be stored correctly and sealed in a bag with silica gel. RigidInk here in the UK provides the bags and silica gel, for storage.

@Mark you are correct the hotend and nozzle comes pre-tightend.

Nigel
Life is keeping interested and excited by knowledge and new things.

Napsal : 25/05/2017 4:01 am
kevin.r5
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

From the animated GIF's you posted, I'd have to agree with PJR (his advice in this forum is usually spot on from what I've seen).

It looks like the plastic is oozing out above the nozzle. This is shipped pre-assembled, but possibly they didn't tighten it enough.

-Kevin

Napsal : 25/05/2017 11:29 pm
PJR
 PJR
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

From the animated GIF's you posted, I'd have to agree with PJR (his advice in this forum is usually spot on from what I've seen

Kevin

Thanks for your kind comments.

The nozzle has obviously not been tightened. These are the instructions I was referring to: https://wiki.e3d-online.com/wiki/E3D-v6_Assembly

Peter

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Napsal : 26/05/2017 10:06 am
Nigel
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

Surely as supplied assembled Prusa Hot Ends should come pre-tightend ? If not, poor quality control on Prusa's part. Prusa please note.

Ooops my bad. Peter is right as Kevin confirmed above. On closer look the filament is oozing out above the nozzle.
It seems that a nozzle tightness check is needed as another step in the instructions.

Apologies to all, I'll go back to sleep 🙂

Nigel
Life is keeping interested and excited by knowledge and new things.

Napsal : 27/05/2017 2:18 am
PJR
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

poor quality control on Prusa's part. Prusa please note.

Yes, it's not the first time. I guess they are human at PR after all. 😉

Peter

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Napsal : 27/05/2017 8:44 am
JeffJordan
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

poor quality control on Prusa's part. Prusa please note.

Yes, it's not the first time. I guess they are human at PR after all. 😉

Peter

and it's pretty clear that the higher the demand for printers/kits is, the more the backlog grows... and the higher the pressure is for prusa to produce the printers/kits as fast as possible.
and we all should know that the amount of errors rises when you try to speed up production processes, with a given staff & environment.

i assume that's one reason why prusa moved to a bigger facility.

but growing to fast has other downsides, so it has to be done and planned carefully !
if someone would ask me, i would recommend to prusa a certification according to ISO9001 (the earlier you begin, the easier it is)... even as it looks like unnescessary stuff for them right now.

dem inscheniör is' nix zu schwör...

Napsal : 27/05/2017 9:49 am
Nigel
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

Looking back at this issue, I suspect the company Prusa buys its ready assembled hot ends and tightened nozzles, ie E3D maybe at fault?

I suggest a check at Prusa''s end of the supply chain.

Nigel
Life is keeping interested and excited by knowledge and new things.

Napsal : 28/05/2017 4:33 am
PJR
 PJR
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Re: MK2S Kit hotend bubbling & smoking

Looking back at this issue, I suspect the company Prusa buys its ready assembled hot ends and tightened nozzles, ie E3D maybe at fault?

I suggest a check at Prusa''s end of the supply chain.

Nigel

The only thought I have on that is that it would be significantly cheaper to assemble the hot end in the Czech Republic than in the UK. With that said, I have no idea where they are assembled.

Peter

Please note: I do not have any affiliation with Prusa Research. Any advices given are offered in good faith. It is your responsibility to ensure that by following my advice you do not suffer or cause injury, damage…

Napsal : 28/05/2017 6:29 pm
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