KISSlicer MK2 settings  

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Cyrille

Firstly, apologies, I am quite poorly today and am having difficulties thinking properly.

The speed/precision settings are based on the print speeds that I have defined in the Printer/Speed tab. I have determined these speeds to be good average max and min for the various printable sections. You will see that there is also an "I3 Fast" setting for when I just need a quick print.

The setting which will probably help your print the most is the Style/Loops go from inside... being unchecked. This will lay down the perimeters first and will prevent them being distorted.

Also, did you have a look at the KISS manual?

Peter

EDIT: One more thing; I chose to pay the $42 for the PRO version, not because I needed the PRO features but simply because I wanted to support the developer. There are some places however, where you don't have a choice about "PRO" 😉

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Wow PJR you're too fast for me, I was still editing my message and I already see your answer !!

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Ok so I found a french and an english quickstart guide but I don't have the full manual yet. I understand what you think about when you talk about other "pro" version 😉 . Indeed the pro version just add the multi head printing option, and some advanced options... (I guess...?).

I will follow your last tip (unchecking the Style/Loops go from inside). In fact, I'm just trying to make KISSlicer work at least like slic3r for the moment, and then, from there I know it will be able to give me more options to improve the quality of my prints.

Now I understand that the slider I was moving in the style tab was moving between the values you have defined in the Printer/Speed tab (100%, 50% and 80% of those values). I will try to find the full manual and download it.

P.S: I noticed the "bed size" and the "bed center" values have changed between "MK2" setting and "I3 fast" setting. I suppose this is not so important if the printed object doesn't exceed those values ? Or is it specific to the I3 fast setting ?

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

The KISSlicer home page does not have an up to date manual.

Best I can find is this one: http://2015.3ntr.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Kisslicer_manual_en.pdf

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Sorry, I meant to attach the latest manual...

Peter

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

The "i3 Fast" setting is for the Mk1 printer which has a smaller build area than the Mk2. I have not yet pushed the Mk2 to higher speeds...

Peter

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

I finally obtained what I wanted. You were right Peter: "The setting which will probably help your print the most is the Style/Loops go from inside... being unchecked."
That was the thing to do, the print is perfect:
- the numbers are well defined,
- the bridging of the letters is what I was expected for
- and there is abolutely no gaps

Thanks again Peter, I think that's a great profile you're giving us. I've read all the manual, there are so many things to learn...but the print is so great.

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Cyrille

Thanks for your kind comments.

I knew it was possible to get a decent result; for my recent exhibition, I modified Josef's whistle (including adding a pea) with our company logo and phone number in the colors of our national flag (manually inserted M600):

The text on the whistle is very small, so there are some gaps, but I was happy with the result.

Peter

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I knew it was possible to get a decent result; for my recent exhibition, I modified Josef's whistle (including adding a pea)

Did you manually add a pea, or did you print a pea?

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Printed

Peter

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Hi Peter. I tried my first prints with ABS and I noticed the first layer wih Kisslicer is not as good as the slic3r one. I understand why now, in slic3r the first layer is configured to print at 0.15mm then 0.2mm for the remaining ones. My live Z adjust is configured with this.
Kisslicer prints all the layers at 0.2mm. Is there a way to change the first layer height in KISSlicer ? I tried to find it in the tabs without success.

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Hi Cyrille

The Z_MIN has been my biggest issue with these printers since I purchased the Mk1 with a value of 0.23mm.

Unfortunately KISS does not easily allow different layer heights and I don't think that is your problem. The minimum first layer height on the Mk2 with firmware 3.0.8 is 0.15mm (with most earlier firmware it was 0.2mm). There is no problem printing ABS with a first layer of 0.2mm, but you will need to use a different Z Live Adjust value than with PLA.

In order to get KISS to print a different first layer, go to the Printer/Hardware tab and use the Bed Roughness or Z-Offset fields.

Generally Bed Roughness is a positive value which increases the first layer height and extrusion by the amount entered. The Z-Offset with a negative value can be used to lower the first layer height whilst keeping the extrusion the same, but Layer Height plus Z Offset must not be less than 0.15mm.

What Firmware are you currently using?

Peter

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I'm still using firmware 3.0.7 (it's also 0.15mm for the first layer), it works great for me for the moment like that . I already had to change Z live adjust when I switched to ABS (from 0.377 with PLA to 0.450 with ABS). It's average 1.72mm diameter so I guess this is also due to this.
The new Z live adjust value works perfectly with slic3r and as I now usually use slic3r and kisslicer, I don't want to Z live adjust each time I change the slicer.
I'm going to try Z Offset: -0.05 to get 0.15 for this first layer. Is this correct ?
Thank you

P.S: I also noticed in your profile that Z-Lift is inactive (0mm). It's by default in slic3r for the MK2. Is there a particular reason for this ?

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Cyrille

If you set Z Offset to -.05, then you will over-extrude the first layer. Maybe this is what you need. Try it an see.

Regarding Z Lift, I only use it when I need to simply because prints take longer when it is turned of and it can cause stringing by delaying the nozzle movement on non-printing moves. Again, try it out to see if it works for you.

Peter

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

The final perfect value for the Z Offset was -0.3 :D. It looked a bit too squished with 0.5
Now I've got the same quality on my first layer with slic3r and KISSlicer, so I don't need to calibrate anything when I use one slicer or the other.

Re: KISSlicer MK2 settings

Cyrille

That really is good news. Well done. Now figure out how to do prints with a layer height of less than 150 microns. (HINT: set Bed Roughness to 0.15 - layer height... It is a bit messy, but I have put in a feature request for differing first layer heights)

Peter