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Protoncek
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Re: Is a silicone sock on the heater block possible?

I installed sock on my mk3 and it fits like a glove. It's original E3D sock, which comes in set of three. I think that it fits strong enough that it won't fall off - it stucks quite well all around heater block. I've had it on my MK2, too and it held on quite well. As you guys say, main thing is that it keeps mess away...

Postato : 14/12/2017 6:36 pm
Ed
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Re: Is a silicone sock on the heater block possible?

Does including a silicone sock change the characteristics of the printer? What are the recommended adjustments if so?

Postato : 14/12/2017 7:51 pm
Peter
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Is a silicone sock on the heater block possible?

I'm guessing running a pid tuning would be advisable.

Postato : 14/12/2017 8:01 pm
Protoncek
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Re: Is a silicone sock on the heater block possible?

Well, on my printer temperature of nozzle stays rock solid at set temp (it doesn't change even for one degree up/down), so i think there's no need to change or adjust anything. With socket you isolate whole heater/sensor/nozzle head. Because of this additional isolation temperature is more stable, especially if head is moving around fast. Cooling fan also blows into nozzle, so it's negative effect is corrected, too.

Postato : 14/12/2017 8:44 pm
rotarypower101
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Re: Is a silicone sock on the heater block possible?


We’ve had to many socks fall out on the farm ruining the prints and hotends to include it ...

Would you ever consider developing your own that did not suffer this issue of releasing?

Perhaps a full surround without gaps cut out, maybe even fasteners to assure staying put and tight on the block and specifically the nozzle?

Seems like a VERY nice thing to have for novice users and people with simple bad luck... able to deflect filament that tries to stick, and effectively increases the thermal mass.

I have never had this issue, but I can easily see the desirability for a little cheap insurance for what could be a expensive and difficult mistake to correct.

Could make it in Prusa Black with branding specifically for these machines!

I think it would be a very positive addition if done correctly!

Postato : 15/12/2017 7:48 am
Justin
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Re: Is a silicone sock on the heater block possible?

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but, what would be the forum consensus on which socks to purchase? The "old" style that more tightly fits the nozzle or the "new" style that is more open?

Both will help temperature consistency but the old style will keep the nozzle cleaner. There must be a reason they came up with a newer version that will "better suit the needs of 99% of [their] customers." Thoughts?

Postato : 21/01/2018 9:47 pm
spark
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Re: Is a silicone sock on the heater block possible?

I thought it wasn't a matter of old or new which may be the case in their chronological development. But, it was more an availability and marketing thing. The "Pro" comes with three different sized partial nozzle holes while the normal pack has three of the same exposed nozzle style. Since these things get delicate real fast if you print anything other than PLA, I lean on three of the same.

MK2S kit owner since 8/15/2017

Postato : 21/01/2018 10:55 pm
Laird Popkin
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Re: Is a silicone sock on the heater block possible?

I use the (the 'standard' not 'pro') on several printers (Mk3, Ultimaker with E3Dv6) and the 'socks' are quite nice. They keep the printer cleaner, and they reduce heat loss in the hot end, which means that the printer can keep a constant temperature with less energy, which I like the idea of. I've not had to re-tune PID; the pre-sock tuning seems to work fine as far as I can tell.

If the sock is on 'tight' there's plenty of clearance around the tip of the nozzle, so I've never had a sock come off. But then, I'm not running a huge farm of printers continuously. 🙂

Postato : 22/01/2018 5:57 am
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