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stevenSTS
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Hotend heating/cooling jumps

Hello guys,

I have a mysterious failure since a week. If I heat up my hotend everythings fine until it reaches ~170-180°C then the temperature drops immediatly by ~50°C and the hotend continue with heating. If it then got to 190°C it seems to be way too hot because there comes smoke out of the nozzle.

I tested this with original prusa PLA and also other PLA.

If you then cooldown the Hotend the same happens again. So it cools down to ~120°C and then suddenly shows up ~180°C.

To detect the exact temperature where this error occurs i tried to heat up slowly.

Any suggestions? Maybe a broken Thermistor?

Thanks in advance.

Posted : 14/04/2018 5:01 pm
reid.b
(@reid-b)
Reputable Member
Re: Hotend heating/cooling jumps

More than likely a broken or intermittent wire for the thermistor. Check all your bundles for kinks, check the thermistor connection at the Einsy.

Posted : 14/04/2018 10:28 pm
stevenSTS
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Hotend heating/cooling jumps

So Double checked the cable ans the Connection to the Rambo board. Seems all fine to me. Only thing I saw was that the cable coming out from thermistor seems a little to hot because it changed color from white to brown.

Everything else seems to be fine.

I also tried to shake the cable and watched for temperature changings but nothing happened.

Posted : 15/04/2018 9:32 am
stevenSTS
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Hotend heating/cooling jumps

So I ended up with changing Thermistor to a PT100 from E3D and therefore rebuild the firmware with proper changes. I also changed the wiring. But the problem persists. The Temperature of the hotend's still jumping by an offset of about 50 Degrees. I don't know what to do.

Please help!!!

Posted : 12/05/2018 5:20 pm
Michael K.
(@michael-k-2)
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Re: Hotend heating/cooling jumps


So I ended up with changing Thermistor to a PT100 from E3D and therefore rebuild the firmware with proper changes. I also changed the wiring. But the problem persists. The Temperature of the hotend's still jumping by an offset of about 50 Degrees. I don't know what to do.

Please help!!!

What firmware changes did you do?

I am also planning to change the standard thermistor to PT100 and amplifyier board and a new 40W heater cartridge. The only change I reckon is needed to uncomment this line:
#define E3D_PT100_EXTRUDER_WITH_AMP

On all the other places I see checks whether this is defined or not, so it will do all the other changes automatically.

Michael

Posted : 14/05/2018 4:29 pm
dan.e
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Re: Hotend heating/cooling jumps

Hi there,

I'm looking for advice on how to connect the 3-wire PT100 to the Einsy

Looking at the documentation:
https://github.com/ultimachine/Einsy-Rambo/blob/1.1a/board/Project%20Outputs/Schematic%20Prints_Einsy%20Rambo_1.1a.PDF

Page 5 has the EXT P3 layout. I'm going to connect GND to [7] and 5V to [1].

My question, the signal wire needs an analog input, do I connect to the non-GND pin for the current extruder thermistor input or choose another?

Posted : 16/06/2018 7:47 pm
dan.e
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Re: Hotend heating/cooling jumps


So I ended up with changing Thermistor to a PT100 from E3D and therefore rebuild the firmware with proper changes. I also changed the wiring. But the problem persists. The Temperature of the hotend's still jumping by an offset of about 50 Degrees. I don't know what to do.

Please help!!!

Hi stevenSTS,

I'm looking for advice on how to connect the 3-wire PT100 to the Einsy

Looking at the documentation:
https://github.com/ultimachine/Einsy-Rambo/blob/1.1a/board/Project%20Outputs/Schematic%20Prints_Einsy%20Rambo_1.1a.PDF

Page 5 has the EXT P3 layout. I'm going to connect GND to [7] and 5V to [1].

My question, the signal wire needs an analog input, do I connect to the non-GND pin for the current extruder thermistor input or choose another?

Posted : 16/06/2018 7:49 pm
dan.e
(@dan-e)
Active Member
Re: Hotend heating/cooling jumps



So I ended up with changing Thermistor to a PT100 from E3D and therefore rebuild the firmware with proper changes. I also changed the wiring. But the problem persists. The Temperature of the hotend's still jumping by an offset of about 50 Degrees. I don't know what to do.

Please help!!!

Hi stevenSTS,

I'm looking for advice on how to connect the 3-wire PT100 to the Einsy

Looking at the documentation:
https://github.com/ultimachine/Einsy-Rambo/blob/1.1a/board/Project%20Outputs/Schematic%20Prints_Einsy%20Rambo_1.1a.PDF

Page 5 has the EXT P3 layout. I'm going to connect GND to [7] and 5V to [1].

My question, the signal wire needs an analog input, do I connect to the non-GND pin for the current extruder thermistor input or choose another?

My initial thought worked, printing running well now.

Posted : 16/06/2018 10:07 pm
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