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Printing really tiny Nylon (or PLA) gears... ID = 2.5mm; OD = 4mm; 12 teeth

One of my next projects was to try to print some gears to replace cracked gears on some N-scale locomotives (a chronic problem of some brands from specific eras). I figured I would do a sanity check first before I did too much work on this since the gears are sooooo small. Can  print a viable gear this small?

The gears have an outside dimension of 4mm and an inside dimension of 2.5mm with 12 teeth. I think I could make the gears at least 3mm wide (almost as wide as current gear + axle cuff).

Here are some pictures of the gear I need to replace: https://photos.app.goo.gl/grPGXcznQbBp4crK9

Some additional info -- I have a .25mm hardened steel nozzle, .25 copper alloy nozzle, and a .15mm brass nozzle available. I had assumed it would be better to do these out of Nylon but this part of the engine does not get hot so maybe PLA would be an option (since I could use the smaller brass nozzle...?)? I have Nylon, ABS, PLA, & PETG filament available...

In case models / makes matter on parts this is what I have:

Thanks in advance for advice...

Respondido : 19/09/2019 2:01 am
Nikolai
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RE: Printing really tiny Nylon (or PLA) gears... ID = 2.5mm; OD = 4mm; 12 teeth

I've done similar thing and I would recommend to use Nylon:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2GTdi9DjIO

As this part is very small, only one outer layer was possible with 0.4 nozzle. But with Nylon it worked perfectly fine. I think your part is a little bit smaller, so maybe you would need to use 0.25 nozzle. Make also sure to use at least 50% infill. But beside of that I see no issues why it shouldn't work.

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Respondido : 19/09/2019 9:47 pm
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Printing really tiny Nylon (or PLA) gears... ID = 2.5mm; OD = 4mm; 12 teeth

Which online gear designer / generator do you guys recommend?

I have tried a few but I am struggling to make them work (could not find any that let you input diameters and number of teeth instead of other settings I don't know since I am copying gears, PrusaSlicer would not open one STL I created, and my first print came out terrible from one I got to work).

Respondido : 21/09/2019 11:30 am
polak.jn
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RE: Printing really tiny Nylon (or PLA) gears... ID = 2.5mm; OD = 4mm; 12 teeth

@mac-phd

Did you manage to print that gear? What equip do you need to print something so small? I need exactly same one to the AF mechanism of the old Sigma lens - impossible to buy anywhere...

Respondido : 01/06/2020 6:20 pm
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Printing really tiny Nylon (or PLA) gears... ID = 2.5mm; OD = 4mm; 12 teeth

@polak-jn

I did not get it to work -- I tried a few times but the resolution is not high enough with my printer w/ .25mm nozzle. I have a .15mm nozzle that I might try but I think that it might require UV resin type printing.. some people posted they were able to do that for larger scale trains w/ UV + liquid resin approach.

Respondido : 01/06/2020 7:00 pm
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RE: Printing really tiny Nylon (or PLA) gears... ID = 2.5mm; OD = 4mm; 12 teeth

I've had good luck with the 'Involute Gear' function in the Freecad Part Design workbench.

The smallest one I've made, however, has about a 6mm outside diameter with an 8mm extension for a 4mm shaft.  This printed just fine with Hatchbox PLA and meshes with a much larger gear.  Standard .4mm nozzle.  I would, intuitively, think that this is approaching the limit of a successfully-printed gear of this type with this equipment and nozzle.

Respondido : 01/06/2020 8:20 pm
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