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bidibule
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Newbie and first prints

Hi all !

Just received my brand new MK3 prusa and I'm starting to play with it. I'm very new to 3D printing so I guess I will have to learn by experience 🙂

After a first problem with filament got stucked (which ended is a failed print), I have redone the calibration and print a bed test square to see if everything was fine.

The square printed well and I tried to print the spool clips (PLA) from this page (so I can block the filament when changing) but I've got problems
https://www.prusaprinters.org/10-handy-little-gadgets-for-beginners-in-3d-printing/

The elements are very small and at a moment, the elements have come off the surface (sheet) while printing and get glued to the nozzle.
So I stopped the printing.

Do I need to change some settings for it ?

Also do you have any tips for stabilizing the filament as it unwinds ? (it tends to come out of the spool)

Thank you !

Posted : 31/05/2018 11:33 am
Gato
 Gato
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Re: Newbie and first prints

How did you calibrate live z? Did you print the 75x75 square posted on this other thread z my way”? If live z is correctly tuned then how are you cleaning the bed? These are the 2 main reasons for bad adhesion. Oil from fingers on PEI will ruin adhesion.

Are you using the silver pla filament from Prusa (or similar 1kg roll)? You shouldn’t need to stabilize things. A picture would help see what’s going on.

Posted : 01/06/2018 3:07 am
bidibule
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Re: Newbie and first prints

Well the calibration is good because I've just finish a 8h work for business card holder.
Anyway I will retry 🙂

I'm cleaning the bed using Isopropanol 99,99% each time and acetone once a week! (I've just started)

Right now I'm using the silver pla filament (I heard it wasn't very good) but I've ordered other filament so 'I'll give a try

Posted : 01/06/2018 8:58 am
bidibule
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Re: Newbie and first prints

Hi all ! What I've learned so far:

* When loading a filament, you should heat for few minutes until the filament is well loaded and melting

I think this will help me a lot 🙂

Posted : 01/06/2018 10:09 am
bidibule
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Re: Newbie and first prints

Some news and questions:

I tried to print the Spring from a business card holder and 2 times it failed I guess because the size of the base was too small to avoid the object to move after a certain time.

Check the screenshots: 2 times it failed when the object has started to move from the bed.

So I put a little bit of glue stick (ordered at prusa) on the bed before printing the third time and increase the temperature by 10° after first few layers and now it seems to work (4im at 55%)

Is is a good practice I took ?

Thank you !

Posted : 01/06/2018 1:46 pm
nenad.b
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Re: Newbie and first prints

There is no reason to clean the surface after every print, just do not touch it with your fingers. I will not use acetone for cleaning purposes.

The best way to keep your small objects sticking on the bed is to used skirt feature in you slicer settings. 3-5 mm will do the job.

Glue on PEI surface is used for materials which are sticking too much and the purpose of the glue is to make it less adherant.

Posted : 01/06/2018 4:47 pm
bidibule
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Re: Newbie and first prints


There is no reason to clean the surface after every print, just do not touch it with your fingers. I will not use acetone for cleaning purposes.

The best way to keep your small objects sticking on the bed is to used skirt feature in you slicer settings. 3-5 mm will do the job.

Glue on PEI surface is used for materials which are sticking too much and the purpose of the glue is to make it less adherant.

Hi nenad.

Thank for answering me.

About skirt feature, you mean this ? http://manual.slic3r.org/expert-mode/skirt

Distance from object or extrusion length ?

Posted : 06/06/2018 11:38 am
JoanTabb
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Re: Newbie and first prints

Hi Bidibule

models with thin bases are notoriously difficult to print, because the ends and corners try to lift.

I have created a small object as a demonstration, it is Tee shaped.

the ends of the tee will tend to lift when you print them, but the middle of the tee won't tend to lift

for your model
I think you were confused, you were looking at Skirt rather than Brim,

the Brim setting is lower down
In the example I have given Brim a value of 6mm

this gives an effect like this in the picture the black lines are the brim and the red and blue lines are the model
the black line around the outside of the model is the Skirt, as you can see, there is one outline, and it is about 2mm from the edge of the brim on the main model

you can also use Mouse Ears to help constrain the corners and points

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 06/06/2018 1:53 pm
bidibule
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Re: Newbie and first prints

Yeah great!

Saw an article about Brim!

Great, will try it !

thanks !

Posted : 06/06/2018 3:29 pm
JoanTabb
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Re: Newbie and first prints

Good luck,
regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 06/06/2018 4:02 pm
bidibule
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Re: Newbie and first prints

Just an update for those who kindly answered me.

Well I think I have mastered the settings and printing problems. 🙂

Now I can print what I want and since 3 print, nothing failed (PLA)

The jail printed fine during the night in 11H and I have printed the door using brim because it had a really small connection surface with the bed.
So everything is fine now...for PLA I guess 😀

I will create an enclosure and retry with ABS.

Thanks all !

Posted : 11/06/2018 12:53 pm
Kai
 Kai
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Re: Newbie and first prints


Just an update for those who kindly answered me.

Well I think I have mastered the settings and printing problems. 🙂

Now I can print what I want and since 3 print, nothing failed (PLA)

The jail printed fine during the night in 11H and I have printed the door using brim because it had a really small connection surface with the bed.
So everything is fine now...for PLA I guess 😀

I will create an enclosure and retry with ABS.

Thanks all !

Hello bidibule,

would you mind sharing your .stl files?
My son saw the jail while i read your thread.
Now i´ve got an problem, because he ask´s me nearly every day if i could print it for him.
Greetings
Kai

Wer freundlich fragt bekommt auch eine freundliche Antwort.
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Posted : 13/06/2018 11:17 am
Kai
 Kai
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Re: Newbie and first prints

By the way, that print is very nice!
What Filament did you use?

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Posted : 13/06/2018 11:21 am
bidibule
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Re: Newbie and first prints


By the way, that print is very nice!
What Filament did you use?

Here you are https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2688775

For the building (grey part), I have used the filament supplied with the Prusa printer. Which apparently isn't very good for some members here but as you said, the print is really nice so I'm satisfied! (0.2mm Fast mode)

For the white part, I bought a white filament in Belgium (3DOnline.be)

Be patient it took 11h to print 🙂 (+ 2 for the roof and the door). Also I didn't add support for the door, it worked well for this time

Posted : 13/06/2018 11:54 am
Kai
 Kai
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Re: Newbie and first prints

Thank you very much!
I will post pictures when finished.
I am curious about which colors my son is going to choose.
But i think the Prusa grey will be a good choice for the walls.
Patience is no Problem.
I already printed those for my son.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1385312
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:795952
The first one took about 26 hours inkluding all needed parts.

Wer freundlich fragt bekommt auch eine freundliche Antwort.
nec aspera terrent

Posted : 13/06/2018 2:43 pm
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