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hurricanecues.com
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DENTAL REPAIR

Is there a filament that I can use to repair dental braces>>>???

Postato : 25/06/2018 11:13 pm
nathan0876
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR

i have seen some medical grade nylon filaments, i would start looking there.

Postato : 26/06/2018 7:08 pm
beau.m
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR

This might sound dumb because I'm not 100% certain this is true- but isn't doing your own dental illegal?

Postato : 26/06/2018 8:18 pm
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR


This might sound dumb because I'm not 100% certain this is true- but isn't doing your own dental illegal?

I guess I won't ask about a filament to print a new hip then!!!

Postato : 26/06/2018 9:19 pm
ram64
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR


Is there a filament that I can use to repair dental braces>>>???

You can probably look at filaments that are food-grade or ask for certifications from the manufacturer. There are a few issues, though:
- Most filaments won't go through all sorts of certifications as that would inherently increase the price. I imagine that any sort of prosthesis would require materials that don't degrade over time, don't have the risk of splinting or dissolving in contact with your bodily fluids and getting inside you (I am just looking at it from my perspective so don't quote me on it).
- Your printer, unless built for this sole purpose, will leave contaminants and defects in the final product, making it unsafe for real world usage unless heavily inspected for quality.

That being said, I think it's a bad idea to use it for what you want.

Postato : 26/06/2018 10:15 pm
K7ZPJ
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR

Not a good idea. Fused filament 3d prints leaves microscopic gaps between layers that bacteria can live and grow in.
This is ok for a one use item, like a disposable cookie cuter , but not safe for something that is reused or kept in your mouth.

Postato : 26/06/2018 10:46 pm
nathan0876
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR

found it

https://www.amazon.com/Taulman-Nylon-680-Printing-Filament/dp/B00W6CEHWW

This claims to be medical grade and suited for biomedical parts.

Postato : 26/06/2018 11:45 pm
josh.w3
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR


found it

https://www.amazon.com/Taulman-Nylon-680-Printing-Filament/dp/B00W6CEHWW

This claims to be medical grade and suited for biomedical parts.

Cool, but no. "FDA approval for indirect food contact" in no way means it is safe to live inside your mouth on a semi-permanent basis. Being in constant contact with your saliva and the soft tissue inside of your mouth is an extremely specific use case that demands extremely specific material composition (to avoid being slowly poisoned by leaching chemicals). I would venture to say that no material that is safe to live in your mouth is going to be printable on a consumer-grade printer at this point in time.

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Postato : 28/06/2018 4:54 pm
nathan0876
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR



found it

https://www.amazon.com/Taulman-Nylon-680-Printing-Filament/dp/B00W6CEHWW

This claims to be medical grade and suited for biomedical parts.

Cool, but no. "FDA approval for indirect food contact" in no way means it is safe to live inside your mouth on a semi-permanent basis. Being in constant contact with your saliva and the soft tissue inside of your mouth is an extremely specific use case that demands extremely specific material composition (to avoid being slowly poisoned by leaching chemicals). I would venture to say that no material that is safe to live in your mouth is going to be printable on a consumer-grade printer at this point in time.

You should probably tell Taulman that then since they have pictures of dental pieces on their product page to advertise that filament.

https://taulman3d.com/nylon-680-spec.html

Postato : 28/06/2018 6:07 pm
josh.w3
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR




found it

https://www.amazon.com/Taulman-Nylon-680-Printing-Filament/dp/B00W6CEHWW

This claims to be medical grade and suited for biomedical parts.

Cool, but no. "FDA approval for indirect food contact" in no way means it is safe to live inside your mouth on a semi-permanent basis. Being in constant contact with your saliva and the soft tissue inside of your mouth is an extremely specific use case that demands extremely specific material composition (to avoid being slowly poisoned by leaching chemicals). I would venture to say that no material that is safe to live in your mouth is going to be printable on a consumer-grade printer at this point in time.

You should probably tell Taulman that then since they have pictures of dental pieces on their product page to advertise that filament.

https://taulman3d.com/nylon-680-spec.html

Contrary to what you seem to be assuming, photos of models/prototype dental assemblies do not suggest this material is safe for long-term in-mouth usage. Their product description says "dental research" ... notice that it does not say "manufacture of dental appliances". There are lots of cutting-edge dental technologies that revolve around rapid prototyping and fitment of test pieces that will later be turned into permanent appliances made from completely different materials (such as surgical steel, porcelain, resins, etc.) These prototyping materials are intended to briefly be put in someone's mouth to test a fit, or never put in anyone's mouth at all. (Watch this video: ... The host talks about printing "models" in 3D, but then "milling" the actual crown that will be permanently placed in the patient's mouth.) While there are processes and products for 3D printing permanent dentures and crowns, I can assure you that the materials and the printers are vastly different (and exponentially more expensive) than a cheap "food-safe" nylon filament and a PRUSA MK3. They are primarily DLP/SLA printers using light-curable resin materials.

So while it's possible this nylon filament is intended for dental prototyping and patient fitment, no one is making actual dental appliances from it. It's simply not a suitable material. However if you want to stick a piece of nylon printer filament in your mouth for a couple of years, be my guest. Let us know how that turns out for you.

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Postato : 28/06/2018 6:58 pm
bobstro
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR

The idea of something as pitted and layered as an FDM printed product going in my mouth for any length of time is really grossing me out. They have a hard time keeping dentures clean!

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Postato : 28/06/2018 7:26 pm
mike.p19
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR

If you’re looking for filaments, search for it at mental dental. It’s large dental store that supplies everything from toothbrushes to specialist dental equipment. I’ve bought there supplies for cavity’s treatment. The total price was considerably lower than in other stores where I checked it. Highly recommend this service!

Postato : 20/12/2018 7:08 pm
ed
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Re: DENTAL REPAIR


If you’re looking for filaments, search for it at mental dental. It’s large dental store that supplies everything from toothbrushes to specialist dental equipment. I’ve bought there supplies for cavity’s treatment. The total price was considerably lower than in other stores where I checked it. Highly recommend this service!

Or this at Patterson...

https://www.pattersondental.com/Equipment-Technology/Product/354351/cara-print-4-0

Postato : 22/12/2018 4:38 pm
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