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ASA Retraction Settings

I've just started working with ASA.  My first print went well.  I'm using Paramount ASA filament at 260 C nozzle temp and a 0.20mm layer height.  I have a good surface finish.  No warping or shrinkage noticeable.  The print removed easily from the smooth PEI sheet with glue stick applied.  My only complaint is more stringing that I would like. 

I'm going to experiment a bit with changing nozzle temperature and retraction to see if I can reduce the stringing.  I like surface finish at the current temp, so I'd like to start first with retraction settings.  Neither the Prusament and Fillamentum ASA profiles specify a retraction length.  For those with ASA experience, do you use the retraction settings?  If so, what setting are you using?

Posted : 16/04/2021 1:07 pm
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So I've played around a bit with retraction settings and they did not provide much, if any, noticeable relief from stringing.  So I've moved on to temperature settings and reverted retraction settings back to default.  Currently printing at 250C (10 degrees cooler) and see a significant improvement.  I'll keep working nozzle temps to fine tune.

Posted : 16/04/2021 5:19 pm
Swiss_Cheese
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RE: ASA Retraction Settings

You may want to dry your ASA.

The Filament Whisperer

Posted : 16/04/2021 6:34 pm
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@swiss_cheese

The filament I'm using is a sample spool.  Though it came sealed, it did not come with desiccant, so I ran it through a 4 hour drying cycle before attempting to use it.  I think originally, I was just printing it too hot.  I was at the top end of the manufacturer's recommended range.  Looking better now that I've reduced the temp.

Posted : 16/04/2021 9:48 pm
SteveGinUSA
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@egar

So new, I haven't even received my MK3 yet.  Trying to get a feel for what filaments are best to use.  ASA is most appealing, in theory, due to the UV resistance.  It has been frustrating trying to find out which brand has the best results.  

Just wanted to drop a note saying thanks for your input.  You didn't really get any responses here but I found your experience helpful and wanted to let you know that you didn't waste your time posting it.  Every little bit of input is valuable.

I hope you post more of your experience with ASA here.  If you know of any other substantial fountains of knowledge regarding real world ASA experiences, please let me know!

Posted : 01/06/2021 11:04 pm
Swiss_Cheese
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RE: ASA Retraction Settings

@steveginusa

 

Calm down, it's great that your happy and excited about the anticipated arrival of your new printer, you should be. however it would be best if you receive and build your printer, then print your entire first roll of PLA that comes with it, and get a grip on the reality of printing before running around "thanking" for things you don't understand. IT IS NOT a push a button and get thing technology, there is and incredible amount of learning that goes into it's use. PLA is the easiest thing to print (Hence the reason it comes with the machine) you will have to learn a great deal if you have never printed before, and ASA is not the easiest among them. if my words aren't making scene to you then let that be your moment of awakening.

Now with all that said, when you get your printer and start to experience all the problems that go along with learning how to print we will be here, the members of the 3d printing community to assist you, but you have also got to be responsible for educating yourself, read, play, read some more, play some more. inevitably you will come here thinking you have done everything right, and wondering why your prints won't stick to the bed, but we will be here to help.

 

Good Luck, and enjoy your journey

 

Swiss_Cheese

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Posted : 02/06/2021 3:08 am
SteveGinUSA
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RE: ASA Retraction Settings

@swiss_cheese

I don’t know what the hell that was all about but you sure made a lot of assumptions.

Your “Welcome” was seriously overshadowed by the unprovoked berating.  I hope this is not a sign of what I can expect here.  There was nothing in what I said that could have possibly warranted such a response.

I seem to have a talent for attracting trolls and unbalanced people.  I certainly won’t be seeking you out for help, given such a precedent.  Perhaps you should be a bit kinder to people you do not know.  That is my unsolicited advice to you sir.

Posted : 02/06/2021 10:23 am
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@steveginusa

I appreciate your interest in my posts and some of what I learned during my trials of ASA.  Don't be put off by some comments in the forum.  Written messages often lose the intent of the writer, especially when sarcasm is involved.  @swiss_cheese is a very good contributor to this forum.

The is a lot of truth to @swiss_cheese's comments.  3D printing, while rewarding, can also be difficult and frustrating.  I've been at it for about 7 months and put a lot of time and effort into it.  I've learned a lot but know less than half of what the senior members of this community know.  Your interest and enthusiasm will serve you well, keep reading the forums, watch YouTube, read anything you can get your hands on.  Sure some of what you'll see on the internet is junk, but the real nuggets of truth become evident as you learn more.

Posted : 02/06/2021 1:07 pm
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SteveGinUSA
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@egar

I’m a fairly quick learner and wise enough to know that the more I learn the more reasonable my expectations become.

 

While I wait for my printer, I am studying the different types of filaments, their properties and the experiences people are having with them.  Right now, ASA is my focus and is why I am here.  Did you ever find one that you were able to get dialed in?  I understand that the compositions differ from manufacturer to manufacturer; some being easier to print than others.

As far as the other guy goes, maybe he’s a really funny guy and I missed it. No idea. I think it is safe to say that in my 51 years of living, I have never been criticized for saying thank you, LOL.  That is an interesting first.

Posted : 03/06/2021 9:11 am
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cwbullet
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RE: ASA Retraction Settings

@egar

I print my commercial prints almost exclusively in PETG and ASA.  Great stuff.  I almost never need to adjust the extrusion.

If you start with a new roll, I suggest that you do a temperature tower.  Pick the ideal temperature and then and only then would I mess with retraction.  

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Posted : 03/06/2021 10:14 am
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@steveginusa and @cwbullet

I did get my Paramount ASA dialed in.  As I mentioned near the top of this thread, I simply had to reduce the extruder temp slightly to bring the stringing under control.  I tend to print nearly all filament types a little higher than the manufacturer's recommended minimums.  I find I get better layer adhesion (in most cases).  Since this was my first attempts with ASA, I was simply checking with the community to see how others typically setup for ASA.

 

Posted : 03/06/2021 5:08 pm
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