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DavidR
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Let's discuss the control board

Some digging has shown me that the i3 MK3 uses a EINSY RAMBo control board.
While I Have found a detailed description of the RAMBo 1.4 1.3L (see image below) I can't find any details on the EINSY RAMBo board.

My question, referring to the image above, is does the EINSY board have the control ports for 2 hotend heaters and two extruder (E0 and E1) stepper drivers?

If so, is it possible to use a 3rd party dual hotend/extruder setup like two E3D Titan extruders and an E3D Chimera+ hotend?

I am aware of the MMU and of the nice advances (purge/wipe to infil, create a purge/wipe object other than a block, etc), and am willing to consider that as an option, but I like options. 🙂

Former Ender 3 owner.

Respondido : 01/08/2018 2:08 am
Peter L
(@peter-l)
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Re: Let's discuss the control board

The version of the RAMBO used on the MK3 does not appear to have plugs for a second extruder.

If you look at step 8 on this page of the assembly instructions https://manual.prusa3d.com/Guide/8.+Electronics+assembly/513?lang=en you can see a photo of the version in the MK3. It looks significantly different from your picture.

Respondido : 01/08/2018 2:19 am
DavidR
(@davidr)
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Let's discuss the control board

Thanks for the info. Darned shame, though. I don't have my Prusa yet. I'm returning my Ender3 tomorrow, never going with a Bowden design again.
FWIW I did a price comparison, the MMU is cheaper than the option I suggested.
Looks like I'm going to have to build the printer after the Prusa to get what I want. There are some nice options on OpenBuilds.com

Former Ender 3 owner.

Respondido : 01/08/2018 2:29 am
vernon.b
(@vernon-b)
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Re: Let's discuss the control board

https://github.com/ultimachine/Einsy-Rambo and https://ultimachine.com/products/einsy-rambo-1-1
My question, referring to the image above, is does the EINSY board have the control ports for 2 hotend heaters and two extruder (E0 and E1) stepper drivers?

If so, is it possible to use a 3rd party dual hotend/extruder setup like two E3D Titan extruders and an E3D Chimera+ hotend?

#1 No, only has a single extruder output, no 5th driver for a second extruder
#2 Only has 2 high power FET controlled outputs, one for the heated bed, one for the single extruder. The other 2 MOSFETs for fans are lower current rating and also on the 2 pin connectors with 5V.

While I guess one could hack together an external MOSFET and external stepper driver carrier, and use custom firmware and connect those to the expansion headers, that's a lot of work. Again, while technically possible, it requires, something like these 2 parts, additional wiring, and custom firmware to map the new outputs.

Respondido : 01/08/2018 2:31 am
JoanTabb
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Re: Let's discuss the control board

the prusa i3 mk2 uses Rambo Mini

the Mk3 uses Einsy

as far as I can see neither has scope for a second extruder in standard setup,

Prusa did create a four port expander / multiplexor option for the Multi Material Unit v1, on the mk2 printer using additional ports on the unidentified connector to the right of thr LCD / GPIO connectors, in the mini rambo picture above

there was no scope for a second heater with MMUv1

regards Joan

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Respondido : 01/08/2018 2:36 am
Nikolai
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Re: Let's discuss the control board

Where do you see the benefit using EINSI board for a dual extruder customization? At the end you will not be able to use original Prusa firmware out of stock.

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Respondido : 01/08/2018 7:08 pm
frak.n
(@frak-n)
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Re: Let's discuss the control board

I have a Prusa MK3S and was wondering where there was an unused pin (or three) that I could use on the controller to control some LED lights via GCODE. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Respondido : 07/04/2019 6:54 pm
gorillamotors
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RE: Let's discuss the control board
Posted by: joan.t

the prusa i3 mk2 uses Rambo Mini

 

the Mk3 uses Einsy

 

as far as I can see neither has scope for a second extruder in standard setup,

Prusa did create a four port expander / multiplexor option for the Multi Material Unit v1, on the mk2 printer using additional ports on the unidentified connector to the right of thr LCD / GPIO connectors, in the mini rambo picture above

there was no scope for a second heater with MMUv1

regards Joan

Joan,

Does the Prusa have a proprietary Einsy board or can I order one of the einsy 1.1a boards off the internet? I don't plan on multi materials at this time.

Jim

Respondido : 30/04/2019 1:03 pm
Vojtěch
(@vojtech)
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RE: Let's discuss the control board

Does the Prusa have a proprietary Einsy board or can I order one of the einsy 1.1a boards off the internet? I don't plan on multi materials at this time.

To my best knowledge MK3's all shipped with unmodified Ultimachine Einsy Rambo 1.0a and later versions, including the latest 1.1a. But then, I thought the heatbreak was also a standard E3D v6 until recently.

Respondido : 30/04/2019 1:16 pm
jim.l5
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RE: Let's discuss the control board
Posted by: frak.n

I have a Prusa MK3S and was wondering where there was an unused pin (or three) that I could use on the controller to control some LED lights via GCODE. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If there are indeed unused pin(s), it would be neat if the firmware designates a pin to indicate when operator intervention is required.  This would be so useful, for example, to interface with a flashing light that is visible across a large, noisy workshop.

Respondido : 01/05/2019 2:28 pm
jfedor
(@jfedor)
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RE: Let's discuss the control board
Posted by: frak.n

I have a Prusa MK3S and was wondering where there was an unused pin (or three) that I could use on the controller to control some LED lights via GCODE. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You can use some of the pins that are there for connecting the optional Raspberry Pi Zero. Here's a blog post that shows how to use them for triggering a camera to do a timelapse:

https://blog.prusaprinters.org/how-to-create-beautiful-3d-print-timelapse-videos/

You can indeed control the pins via G-code.

Respondido : 01/05/2019 6:28 pm
rogerinhawaii
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What pins are indeed free on the EINSY RAMBo board??

What pins are indeed free on the EINSY RAMBo board??

Looking at the board pic and comparing it to the actual CPU, it looks like there are quite a few free pins.

But which ones are genuinely free and a available to be used via GCode pin control?

Respondido : 03/02/2024 2:50 am
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