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Crunch
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Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?

Does anyone truly know why customers cannot purchase a standard Spring Steel Sheet with or even without the Smooth Double-sided PEI is there a shortage of spring steel in CZ?
I have came to the realization that the powder coated sheets will not be available anytime soon (based on (Shanes latest youtube ) and would like to have an additional sheet to swap out while prints cool down and keep on printing. Buildtak is not an option as it would require resetting the live z each time you swap.

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Publié : 28/04/2018 10:23 pm
Kwaad2
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?

I clicked on this to be all like "Seriously, watch the video. Regardless of supporting prusa or not, it's not gonna happen for awhile. Nothing anyone can say or do."

But your question, is the same question as I have had for quite some time.

Why can't we buy the Spring Steel sheet? Just the sheet? No PEI. I honestly want to buy one, and put a build-tak sticker on one side, and a PEI on the other.

(Build-Tak is slighly textured, and a nice build surface) and honestly, I think PEI is king by today's 'knowledge'. But Build-Tak has better adhesion, which makes it better for "hard to stick" stuff like Nylon and PC.)

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Publié : 28/04/2018 10:36 pm
JMcK
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?

You can buy a spring steel sheet AND BuildTak from BuildTak. It even has notches the line up to the posts on the heat bed.

If you get it though, do something about the edges, it will scratch the coating off the headbed and expose the copper traces.

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Publié : 29/04/2018 2:05 am
Crunch
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?


You can buy a spring steel sheet AND BuildTak from BuildTak. It even has notches the line up to the posts on the heat bed.

If you get it though, do something about the edges, it will scratch the coating off the headbed and expose the copper traces.

joe you missed the part Buildtak is not an option as it would require resetting the live z each time you swap.

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Publié : 29/04/2018 3:05 am
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?



You can buy a spring steel sheet AND BuildTak from BuildTak. It even has notches the line up to the posts on the heat bed.

If you get it though, do something about the edges, it will scratch the coating off the headbed and expose the copper traces.

joe you missed the part Buildtak is not an option as it would require resetting the live z each time you swap.

I have a buildtak sheet and I have a piece of painters tape on my desk with live z values written on it, takes me 20 seconds to change the live z. Is it ideal? No but it’s the best solution there is at the moment...

Publié : 29/04/2018 3:39 am
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?


I clicked on this to be all like "Seriously, watch the video. Regardless of supporting prusa or not, it's not gonna happen for awhile. Nothing anyone can say or do."

But your question, is the same question as I have had for quite some time.

Why can't we buy the Spring Steel sheet? Just the sheet? No PEI. I honestly want to buy one, and put a build-tak sticker on one side, and a PEI on the other.

(Build-Tak is slighly textured, and a nice build surface) and honestly, I think PEI is king by today's 'knowledge'. But Build-Tak has better adhesion, which makes it better for "hard to stick" stuff like Nylon and PC.)

I like the buildtak spring steel sheet, after I polished the edges, but once my buildtak print surface wears out I’ll likely slap a piece of PEI on it. Everything sticks too well to the build task print surface.

Publié : 29/04/2018 3:44 am
Kwaad2
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?



I clicked on this to be all like "Seriously, watch the video. Regardless of supporting prusa or not, it's not gonna happen for awhile. Nothing anyone can say or do."

But your question, is the same question as I have had for quite some time.

Why can't we buy the Spring Steel sheet? Just the sheet? No PEI. I honestly want to buy one, and put a build-tak sticker on one side, and a PEI on the other.

(Build-Tak is slighly textured, and a nice build surface) and honestly, I think PEI is king by today's 'knowledge'. But Build-Tak has better adhesion, which makes it better for "hard to stick" stuff like Nylon and PC.)

I like the buildtak spring steel sheet, after I polished the edges, but once my buildtak print surface wears out I’ll likely slap a piece of PEI on it. Everything sticks too well to the build task print surface.

getting PC to stick to anything is... Ehhh... Rather hard. I may end up looking up their steel sheet.

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I try to not make mistakes, but the decision is YOURS.
Please feel free to donate to my filament/maintance fund.

Publié : 29/04/2018 7:41 am
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?

getting PC to stick to anything is... Ehhh... Rather hard. I may end up looking up their steel sheet.

First off, sorry for the poor response but I tried to reply using my phone...

Maybe the Build-Tak is for you then as it seriously holds on to PETG and PLA. I ran the first layer calibration on it and it took me a solid 30 minutes to peel off the PLA. If you get a Build-Tak sheet I'd strongly advise against printing anything less than 1mm thick and would say even thicker as peeling of a single layer is a nightmare. I'm attaching images of my Build-Tak spring steel sheet and surface. The Build-Tak spring steel sheet is every bit as nice as the Prusa sheet as long as you deburr the edges, (why the heck does google keep trying to autocorrect "deburr"?), I'll beat that dead horse so nobody else makes the same mistake I did....

Build-Tak spring steel sheet and print surface on my MK3

Scratches on my heat bed from the non deburred Build-Tak spring steel sheet...

Publié : 29/04/2018 5:26 pm
KurgerBurger
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?

@edward.c6 -

Does the BuildTak hold onto Nylon? I'm having a terrible time getting Nylon to stick to the Prusa powder-coat PEI plate. And.. where did you find that BuildTak plate sized and notched for the MK3? Or did you cut it down yourself?

Thanks!

Publié : 30/10/2018 9:40 pm
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Re: Spring Steel Sheet With Smooth Double-sided PEI Mystery?


@edward.c6 -

Does the BuildTak hold onto Nylon? I'm having a terrible time getting Nylon to stick to the Prusa powder-coat PEI plate. And.. where did you find that BuildTak plate sized and notched for the MK3? Or did you cut it down yourself?

Thanks!

Sorry, I never printed Nylon so I can't say for sure.

Publié : 30/10/2018 10:00 pm
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