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Vallo
(@vallo)
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Problem Prusa enclosure table support

Hello,
I would like to ask a question to all users who have followed the guide posted on the official Prusa blog to build an enclosure with ikea table.
I refer to this guide: https://www.prusaprinters.org/cheap-simple-3d-printer-enclosure/

I've just completed my enclosure, but I've noticed that the table where the printer stands doesn't have very sturdy legs, and when the printer plate moves very quickly, the table also tends to teeter a bit.
I wondered if this was a problem that occurred to everyone, and especially if the movement of the table could damage the print in progress.

Do you have any advice on this?

Thanks a lot in advance!

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Posted : 24/07/2018 6:26 pm
RufusClupea
(@rufusclupea)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

I'm sorry I can't reference a source, but I seem to recall reading someplace that reinforcement of those tables (for this application) may be necessary via gusset plates or other angle bracing. Shock absorption (e.g. rubberized feet) may also help.

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Posted : 24/07/2018 6:52 pm
ed
 ed
(@ed-3)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

After all of the glowing reviews I set up an Ikea Lack table as well, my printer sat on it for less than 3 days before it moved back to my desk. I'm not sure where all of the love for these things comes from.

Posted : 24/07/2018 8:40 pm
JoanTabb
(@joantabb)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

the price?

regards Joan

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Posted : 24/07/2018 8:45 pm
dumbcomputers
(@dumbcomputers)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

I made my own "base" for the Lack enclosure

Posted : 24/07/2018 10:37 pm
Vallo
(@vallo)
Eminent Member
Topic starter answered:
Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

The total price is about 70/80€ (unfortunately plexiglass is very expensive).
The fact is that the guide to the table is present on the official blog of the Prusa, but once completed seems to be very unstable during printing.
As already written when the printing table top moves quickly, the table moves a little because of the lack of strength of the legs.

What I was wondering is whether the movement of the printer table could compromise print quality and the end result.

If so, I would like to know if the owners of the same enclosure, if they managed to fix the problem.

Thank you.

Posted : 24/07/2018 10:44 pm
Nikolai
(@nikolai)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support


After all of the glowing reviews I set up an Ikea Lack table as well, my printer sat on it for less than 3 days before it moved back to my desk. I'm not sure where all of the love for these things comes from.

The price is unbeatable. If you use plexi glass only for the front door and some more cheaper stuff for the side walls, you can stay under $50 for everything. It looks pretty good and doesn't ruin your print even with a slight vibration due to the light mass.
I've seen enclosures here which are more expensive then the printer itself 🙂

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Posted : 25/07/2018 2:30 am
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

I think I will use L angles to reinforce the legs.

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Posted : 25/07/2018 3:00 am
RufusClupea
(@rufusclupea)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support


the price?

regards Joan

The tables themselves are ~$8 (USD)/£6.09 (GBP)/ €6.85, but shipping starts at $29 (USD) (or equivalents)! 😯

I'm designing one made of furniture grade PVC pipe with rigid insulation sides & top (probably overkill--a corrugated box would probably work as well 💡 ) I agree that the plexiglass is the bugaboo...

Lots of other designs on Google/YouTube.

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Posted : 25/07/2018 7:02 am
lord-carlos
(@lord-carlos)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

I use a large cement block between printer and LACK. Works quite nice. Cost about 10 EUR at a local hardware store.
Of course I also have solid feeds on the mk3.
Edit2: Just to be clear, even with a fast profile and infill I can't see any movement on the top table. If I open the doors I can see some vibrations at the end of the plexi glas.

I don't think you can damage your printer if the table wiggles around, but your print quality will suffer.

Edit: Lack, cement and solid feeds all have a felt sticker on them.

Posted : 25/07/2018 1:06 pm
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

The concrete block is a greta idea. I think I am going to try a piece of marble of heavy tile.

Does anyone have this problem on carpet?

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Posted : 25/07/2018 2:31 pm
raspeitia
(@raspeitia)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

I got to the step of assembling the two tops and came to the same conclusion, so I stopped there and reworked the setup.

I actually have plans to mount the top of the enclosure on a plywood base bolted on to my patio paver for this same reason.

Posted : 25/07/2018 5:05 pm
Vallo
(@vallo)
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support


I use a large cement block between printer and LACK. Works quite nice. Cost about 10 EUR at a local hardware store.
Of course I also have solid feeds on the mk3.
Edit2: Just to be clear, even with a fast profile and infill I can't see any movement on the top table. If I open the doors I can see some vibrations at the end of the plexi glas.

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I don't think you can damage your printer if the table wiggles around, but your print quality will suffer.

Edit: Lack, cement and solid feeds all have a felt sticker on them.

Wow, great job!
I will definitely try this method!

Can I ask you something? I really like the idea of the LCD outside of the enclosure. Can you tell me how you attached it to the edge of the table?

Posted : 26/07/2018 6:22 pm
lord-carlos
(@lord-carlos)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support


Can I ask you something? I really like the idea of the LCD outside of the enclosure. Can you tell me how you attached it to the edge of the table?

Sure, I just printed this one: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2892041
It's a bit lose, but better then the other one I found.

Posted : 28/07/2018 8:30 pm
luke.n2
(@luke-n2)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support


I made my own "base" for the Lack enclosure

Would you share the files for how you mounted the PSU in that orientation please?

Posted : 29/07/2018 1:32 pm
dumbcomputers
(@dumbcomputers)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support



I made my own "base" for the Lack enclosure

Would you share the files for how you mounted the PSU in that orientation please?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3026807

Posted : 30/07/2018 4:36 pm
luke.n2
(@luke-n2)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

Great, thanks so much!

Posted : 31/07/2018 9:27 pm
Darazsweb
(@darazsweb)
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Re: Problem Prusa enclosure table support

The Lack table top is empty inside. Can be filled with dry clean quartz sand.

Posted : 02/08/2018 12:34 am
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