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MetalMangler
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XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

I just received my Prusa i3 MK3S last week and assembled it over the weekend. It initially calibrated fine, but I was having some trouble with the prints. I adjusted my PINDA probe and recalibrated, but XYZ recalibration failed multiple times. I initially found my X and Y axis drive gears needed the grub screws tightened, but still failed calibration. I doublechecked the orientation of the gears on the motors and tried just about everything suggested on all the forum posts. The PINDA sensor test worked fine (going from 0 to 1), during calibration I notice the red light going on and off as expected (red when the nozzle is high, off when it drops closer to the table). The only thing I could detect that didn't match the output suggested in the forums was the test to turn the printer off and move the X and Y axis by hand. The X axis moves easily. The Y axis would seem to stick about 4-5 times over the course of travel (maybe about every revolution of the motor spindle). I took the heated bed off and disconnected the drive belt, and I'm able to move the Y frame back and forth without any binding, so it's definitely resistance in the motor. I reassembled everything and it passed XYZ calibration. But when I tried a sample print I started getting crashes on the Y axis when the nozzle is in the middle of the bed.  The first few times it crashed it moved the table to the back (bringing Y to 0) and bringing X to the left (also to zero), jiggled the table and X axis, then tried to resume the print. On another print that crashed it simply moved the X to the left, and then jiggled the table (but still in about the middle of the Y axis) then tried to resume the print, which drove the table to the front and then started banging the table against the front. 

Am I on the correct track of believing that my Y axis stepper motor may be bad, or is this an issue with the einsy? Is there anything else I should try to troubleshoot the problem?

How does one go about getting support involved? (I see mention of live chat support on the prusa3d.com website, but I haven't been able to find a link to start one. 

 

Many thanks,

Aaron

Posted : 05/05/2020 10:51 pm
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wrong geer on Y xstepper motoruld be 11T.

There was a problem while ago with a 15 T gear instead of a 11T on the Y stepped motor.

Posted : 06/05/2020 1:20 am
RH_Dreambox
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RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

How does one go about getting support involved? (I see mention of live chat support on the prusa3d.com website, but I haven't been able to find a link to start one.

You must be logged in to use chat. You can find the chat in the bottom right corner of the page.

Bear MK3 with Bondtech extruder

Posted : 06/05/2020 11:36 am
MetalMangler
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Topic starter answered:
RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

@rhdreamboxI wasn't seeing anywhere to log in until I went to the e-store. Suddenly it had me logged in and there was the chat link at the bottom right. Your info made me dig a little deeper, so thank you very much!

 

Aaron

Posted : 06/05/2020 12:08 pm
MetalMangler
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Topic starter answered:
RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

@kelsey-harley

 

I counted the teeth and I'm actually counting 16t on the Y-axis  gear. 

 

Aaron

Posted : 06/05/2020 12:24 pm
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RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

Check with Prusa. It should be 11T, I think, I can't count it right now or I could confirm. 

Harley

Posted : 06/05/2020 3:39 pm
RH_Dreambox
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RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

@kelsey-harley No, no, no! There must be 16 teeth on the gear belt wheel.

 

Bear MK3 with Bondtech extruder

Posted : 06/05/2020 3:49 pm
MetalMangler
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Topic starter answered:
RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

Phew... I thought I was going to have to strip some teeth out! 🤣 

 

I chatted with support and we're thinking it's the Y axis stepper motor. Once I get a new one installed I'll update the thread. In the meantime, if anyone has other ideas for me to check, I'm more than willing to continue investigating. Despite the fact that I assembled it, any extra poking around I do will only serve to make me more familiar with the printer.

 

Aaron

Posted : 06/05/2020 6:24 pm
JoanTabb
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RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

@kelsey-harley

X and Y motor toothed wheels should be 16 tooth on the Mk3, unfortunately some 20 tooth ones were sent out in error
regards Joan

 

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 06/05/2020 6:34 pm
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RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

I sit corrected I am in quarantine. I knew there was something.

Harley

Posted : 06/05/2020 8:44 pm
JoanTabb
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RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

@kelsey-harley

Quarantine must be crap! 

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 06/05/2020 9:15 pm
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RE: XYZ calibration failures and Y axis crashes

@joantab

No  I have my printer going and printing model railroad cars. 

 

Posted : 06/05/2020 9:59 pm
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