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ryanmeyer
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Need help diagnosing failed first prints

I've attached a picture of two models that started great, but ended a stringy mess. Somewhere around the hour mark for each print I hear a loud clicking noise that gets my attention. A few minutes later, I walk over and see strands of filament going everywhere. As far as I can tell each print starts great so I'm confused as to what the root cause could be. From many searches online I've come up with my own short list:

* Under extrusion

* Overheating hotend? (Some people say to blow a fan on the print area?)

* Extrusion length? I suppose this has to do with how much filament is being let through?

Hoping someone here will give me the right words to describe the problem I'm having. =)

Publié : 17/07/2019 2:22 am
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RE: Need help diagnosing failed first prints

A close up photo of the bottom of the parts will be helpful, as will an image of the print bed you are using. 

But looks like (and I am guessing from the appearance) the parts are coming loose during printing.  Both parts have plenty of surface area to adhere well - so not a part problem.   When parts have adequate surface area, this adhesion problem comes down to two main causes: finger prints on the bed (and alcohol isn't great at removing finger prints); and layer 1 calibration.  The requested photos will help determine which is the biggest factor.

 

 

Publié : 17/07/2019 7:48 am
ryanmeyer
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RE: Need help diagnosing failed first prints

Here are some more up close pictures. Note that I slightly scored the printing surface during my last z-axis calibration.

Publié : 17/07/2019 8:27 pm
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RE: Need help diagnosing failed first prints

Trying printing one of these ... it should pull off the bed similar to good masking tape. 

Cal Circles

ps: the bottom of the printed parts is what's important to see to gauge layer 1 properties.

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Publié : 17/07/2019 8:50 pm
ryanmeyer
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Need help diagnosing failed first prints

Attaching a few images from the 100mm model. Seems like I have a few issues. 🙁 The layer did come off similar to masking tape.

Publié : 18/07/2019 11:28 pm
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RE: Need help diagnosing failed first prints

When layer 1 is correct, and the offset has been set correctly, the piece should be a solid welded sheet of plastic.

While printing the circle, open the menu Tune: Live-Z and adjust the value more negative until the extrusions begin to weld together.  Make small changes, -25 um at a time, watch for the result, then add another -25 - keep going until you see the threads welding to the last pass.

Also, Jeff's "Life Adjust My Way" post  [sic] is recommended by most, and folks seem to be able to follow the method he suggests.

 

Publié : 19/07/2019 5:10 am
ryanmeyer
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Need help diagnosing failed first prints

The circle model worked great for me. Was able to print a pretty solid benchy and also managed to print a flexi-raptor! I'm very thankful for the link to the post and the quick responses.

 

Thanks!

Publié : 20/07/2019 3:03 am
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RE: Need help diagnosing failed first prints

Good to hear ... and now that you have layer 1 down; keep in mind finger prints are your nemesis.  Never touch the print surface with fingers.  And if you do, using a fresh paper towel as a scrubber with dish soap and hot flowing water is the best way to get the surface back to printable. Then handle the bed only by the edges.

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Publié : 20/07/2019 9:44 pm
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