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Chris Purves
(@chris-purves)
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Great prints but funny first layer

Hi Everyone,

Just wondered if someone might recognise my issue from the photo. In general I get great prints. Very occasionally the nozzle will drag up the whole print.

Sometimes I get the below but things generally print fine. I did go through the first layer full calibration including printing numerous flat squares to nail the offset (and measured 0.2 with micrometer). I have since backed off the offset a tiny bit to see if that helped - it didnt.

Ta

Chris

 

 

Veröffentlicht : 11/04/2023 10:52 am
Diem
 Diem
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Your first layer is not low enough, you need more squish.

measured 0.2 with micrometer

Not a useful measurement.  You are extruding enough filament to lay down 0.2mm so once there is some squish any excess will go sideways and rise to its natural thickness; the object is to make sure the squish pushes all the strands together into a single sheet - which will be approximately 0.2mm thick.

Cheerio,

Veröffentlicht : 11/04/2023 12:16 pm
Chris Purves
(@chris-purves)
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Themenstarter answered:
RE: Great prints but funny first layer

Thanks so much - will give it a go!

 

Chris

 

Posted by: @diem

Your first layer is not low enough, you need more squish.

measured 0.2 with micrometer

Not a useful measurement.  You are extruding enough filament to lay down 0.2mm so once there is some squish any excess will go sideways and rise to its natural thickness; the object is to make sure the squish pushes all the strands together into a single sheet - which will be approximately 0.2mm thick.

Cheerio,

 

Veröffentlicht : 11/04/2023 3:06 pm
Robin_13
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RE: Great prints but funny first layer

FWIW, I did a Z level calibration yesterday after making some changes on my printer and found that in my case, for the thickness on the calibration with PLA, 0.18mm thickness stuck together.  I shot for the "0.20mm" as being 1/2 the nozzle size but the final square just pulled apart when trying to remove it from the bed.   My adjustment ended up being -1.250. 

Veröffentlicht : 12/04/2023 9:56 pm
Diem
 Diem
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Illustrious Member

At the end of the calibration you are aiming to print a single layer, postage stamp sized *sheet*. It should be possible to peel it off in one and fold it without the threads seperating. If it breaks into lines it is too high, not squished enough. If it is a single sheet but with wavy lines or drag marks on it you are too low.

Cheerio,

Veröffentlicht : 13/04/2023 12:38 am
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Chris Purves
(@chris-purves)
Active Member
Themenstarter answered:
RE: Great prints but funny first layer

Thanks! Still a work in progress - mine is currently -1.4!

that said I have the upgrade kit on order and also the big guy too so imagine this kind of conversation could soon be a thing of the past!

 

Chris

 

Posted by: @robin_13

FWIW, I did a Z level calibration yesterday after making some changes on my printer and found that in my case, for the thickness on the calibration with PLA, 0.18mm thickness stuck together.  I shot for the "0.20mm" as being 1/2 the nozzle size but the final square just pulled apart when trying to remove it from the bed.   My adjustment ended up being -1.250. 

 

Veröffentlicht : 13/04/2023 7:21 am
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Chris Purves
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Themenstarter answered:
RE: Great prints but funny first layer

Great advice- thanks!

Chris

 

Posted by: @diem

At the end of the calibration you are aiming to print a single layer, postage stamp sized *sheet*. It should be possible to peel it off in one and fold it without the threads seperating. If it breaks into lines it is too high, not squished enough. If it is a single sheet but with wavy lines or drag marks on it you are too low.

Cheerio,

 

Veröffentlicht : 13/04/2023 7:22 am
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