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Keri
 Keri
(@keri)
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Layer Shifting

I've been having layer shifting issues with my MK2 for many many weeks. It typically on one the X axis only. It only happens when I print models which I slice myself. When I print the Prusa examples I have no issues. This leads me to believe that it is not a mechanical issue.

Troubleshooting I did:
Tighten the belt
Loosen the belt
Tighten the pulleys
Re slice the file
Use Hi Power mode
Try different filament (you never know)
Upgraded the firmware.

Any other suggestions? I am using the default settings for Slicr.

This is the most recent example.

Posted : 25/08/2016 12:14 am
PJR
 PJR
(@pjr)
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Re: Layer Shifting

Hi Keri

Any chance you could upload both the STL and GCode files (zip them up and drag/drop onto a new post)?

It may be that with some models you need to print with Z-Lift to prevent this issue.

Peter

Please note: I do not have any affiliation with Prusa Research. Any advices given are offered in good faith. It is your responsibility to ensure that by following my advice you do not suffer or cause injury, damage…

Posted : 25/08/2016 7:32 am
David T.
(@david-t)
Noble Member
Re: Layer Shifting

What part of the printer hits the object? Nozzle or probe? If it's the probe, is it high enough? Do you use probe protector hat? And, as Peter said, do you use Slic3r profile with Z-lift active?

Posted : 25/08/2016 9:09 am
christophe.p
(@christophe-p)
Member Moderator
Re: Layer Shifting

That's quite strange that you have this issue for your sliced files and not for the provided gcode files.

Since then it seems to be slicing issue, as PEter, could you please post here (in a zip file) the stl and gcode of this print ?

I'm like Jon Snow, I know nothing.

Posted : 25/08/2016 4:53 pm
SBS
 SBS
(@sbs)
Eminent Member
Re: Layer Shifting

I've been having layer shifting issues with my MK2 for many many weeks. It typically on one the X axis only. It only happens when I print models which I slice myself. When I print the Prusa examples I have no issues. This leads me to believe that it is not a mechanical issue.

Troubleshooting I did:
Tighten the belt
Loosen the belt
Tighten the pulleys
Re slice the file
Use Hi Power mode
Try different filament (you never know)
Upgraded the firmware.

Any other suggestions? I am using the default settings for Slicr.

...

Another suggestion, would be to run your STL file through Netfabb, have it fix any model errors, save a new STL and then use your preferred splicer.

Assembled MK2.

Posted : 25/08/2016 10:40 pm
ayourk
(@ayourk)
Reputable Member
Re: Layer Shifting

Here are some questons:

  • What slicer do you like to use? Are you using the Prusa provided profile?

  • How do you create your 3D models? What software do you use?

  • What is the firmware version of your printer under the Support menu?
  • Dimensions PNG

    and an 8 inch (200mm) or greater caliper is recommended.

    Posted : 25/08/2016 11:56 pm
    Keri
     Keri
    (@keri)
    Member
    Topic starter answered:
    Re: Layer Shifting

    I have about a dozen whistles that I have printed without a problem from the Prusa files. I also did the 12 hour castle and the 17 hour dragon without issue.

    Sometimes the printer works for an hour or two with no layer shifting. Sometimes it works for 10 minutes. I can't really tell if the probe or the nozzle hit. I don't think they do. Once I let it run too long and the failed print broke off the probe completely. I re attached it but it's still having the same problem. I tried to take video of the print failing but it was hard to see what exactly went wrong.

    I use Slic3r software that came with the printer. I had used the Detail setting for awhile and switched to Normal mode but still no luck.
    I don't exactly know what Z-lift is! But I''ll look into it.

    The picture is of a failed print of a bot/alien. I downloaded it from Thingiverse. I had used the same STL file on a Maker Select 3D in December and a MakerBot in March, obviously using the slicers for those printers.

    Here is the Gcode file https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7_KoKdC_vxbTmU0SlNJVzJuZTg/view?usp=sharing
    Here is the stl file https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7_KoKdC_vxbNkxMNDdlak9wWmc/view?usp=sharing

    Posted : 26/08/2016 12:52 am
    Shree Kumar
    (@shree-kumar)
    Trusted Member
    Re: Layer Shifting

    I don't exactly know what Z-lift is! But I''ll look into it.

    In Slic3r, set the "Printer" to "Original Prusa i3 MK2 with ZHop". This causes the printer to execute a lot of Z lifts, but I am not exactly sure how this helps.

    Posted : 26/08/2016 3:41 pm
    PJR
     PJR
    (@pjr)
    Antient Member Moderator
    Re: Layer Shifting

    Keri

    I guess you are printing this with ABS?

    Looking at the GCode, your first layer height of 0.35mm and width up to 0.96mm (0.48 x 200%) would suggest that you are pushing the extruder melt to its limit which could in turn cause adhesion problems:

    ; external perimeters extrusion width = 0.40mm
    ; perimeters extrusion width = 0.48mm
    ; infill extrusion width = 0.48mm
    ; solid infill extrusion width = 0.48mm
    ; top infill extrusion width = 0.48mm
    ; first_layer_extrusion_width = 200%
    ; first_layer_speed = 30
    ; first_layer_height = 0.35

    As you are using ABS and I don't have any at present, I cannot run a test print. Sorry...

    Peter

    Please note: I do not have any affiliation with Prusa Research. Any advices given are offered in good faith. It is your responsibility to ensure that by following my advice you do not suffer or cause injury, damage…

    Posted : 26/08/2016 4:06 pm
    Keri
     Keri
    (@keri)
    Member
    Topic starter answered:
    Re: Layer Shifting

    I sliced it for PLA using Slic3r and tried printing it twice.

    The image below shows the most recent results. The top got messed up but that may have been the fault of the model itself. In the middle of the belly you can see it shifted slightly.

    Here is a link to the new gcode file
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7_KoKdC_vxbUG9wUzNIY0NkdDQ/view?usp=sharing

    Posted : 28/08/2016 3:25 pm
    andres.t
    (@andres-t)
    Active Member
    Re: Layer Shifting

    Try lubricating all the shaft axis, and move the x,y and z axis so that the lubrication gets in the bearings. Then remove the excessive lubrication.
    I had a customer with this problem on another brand printer. If the axis are dry or dirty the bearings can get stuck so that the belts jump, then everything gets bad. (its hard to see if the bearings get stuck, you just hear a odd sound for a very short moment.)
    So the solution was cleaning, lubricating and cleaning the axis.

    Hope this works!

    Posted : 11/02/2017 11:12 am
    bonsaihorn
    (@bonsaihorn)
    Active Member
    Re: Layer Shifting

    Are your set screws on the flat part of the shaft?

    Posted : 22/03/2017 2:02 pm
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