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ryan.f15
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Thermal runaway--temperature too low

I've tried a lot of things here. I am at my third or fourth layer, the temp should be 240 for petg but it's around 225. Is there some way to fix this? I've tried redoing the gcode with the first layer different but this is getting expensive

Posted : 04/11/2018 5:13 am
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

Ok well I set it up to print again, and after the first level, what happens is that the fan kicks on, at 255, causing the hotend temp to drop. Is there a way to fix this?

Posted : 04/11/2018 5:00 pm
JoanTabb
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

the standard Prusa PETG profile calls for 30 to 50% cooling. perhaps reducing the cooling would help.

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 04/11/2018 6:35 pm
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

Well that's working...

The problem is that it's offsetting about halfway through the print. This means that it looks like the entire print shifts to the left as it printed.

Posted : 05/11/2018 1:58 am
JoanTabb
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

have you got a picture?

do you have collision detection turned on?

try without it!

if you have any over extrusion, or too low a first layer live Z setting, excess filament will collect on the nozzle, which can cause collisions, and layer shifts

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 05/11/2018 2:07 am
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

How do you turn it off? Can it be done during a print?

Posted : 05/11/2018 2:41 am
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

Here is the offset. This was at about 60% complete.

Posted : 05/11/2018 2:58 am
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

Second try. Same exact problem. How do you disable collision?

Posted : 05/11/2018 1:16 pm
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low


have you got a picture?

do you have collision detection turned on?

try without it!

if you have any over extrusion, or too low a first layer live Z setting, excess filament will collect on the nozzle, which can cause collisions, and layer shifts

regards Joan

I have the fan speed down at 30% now, that's no longer a problem, it's the shifting that is now the issue.

Posted : 05/11/2018 4:06 pm
JoanTabb
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

Hi Ryan,

From what I can see, you are ploughing the surface with your nozzle this looks like you are over extruding a bit,

try reducing your extrusion multiplier to say 0.95 and see what happens. just do a sample print and see what the effects are.

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 05/11/2018 9:38 pm
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

I see. Is that done in the gcode or in the printer?

Posted : 05/11/2018 11:18 pm
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

I currently have retraction distance at .8mm. Is that correct?

Posted : 12/11/2018 3:14 am
ryan.f15
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

Ok. Multiplier set to .95 but the same exact issue continues.

Posted : 14/11/2018 4:49 pm
lee.g
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

That is a large print that could be susceptible to the corners lifting and collision occurring with the nozzle.

I do agree you are over extruding a little. It may or may not cause you a problem and the only way to know is to try and change the extrusion value as suggested. Saying that i normally over extrude on purpose to get strong parts and don't see issues. I only make adjustments in the Slicer for this.

Retraction at 0.8mm should be fine.

Posted : 23/12/2018 2:48 pm
JoanTabb
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Re: Thermal runaway--temperature too low

Sorry Ryan,

Crash detection is on the settings menu on the LCD Menu.

I typically use 0.8mm retraction for everything except TPU, but every printer is likely to be different,

if the top of the prints is still ridged, you may need to check your filament diameter!

if it's bigger than the printer is expecting you will get over extrusion,

Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Posted : 23/12/2018 3:48 pm
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