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Chester41
(@chester41)
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Too strong adhesion PEI sheet with PETG material

Hi,
Using now PETG instead of PLA, I have replaced recently the PEI sheet of my MK2, The problem is that the new PEI sheet is now localy damaged due to too much adhesion. I know now that I made a mistake because I used IPA for cleaning.

Then I am using now a window cleaner but if I extract the part with a cool bed and use a spatula, the adhesion is still much too strong. I made several tests and modified some parameters noze and bed T° without success ( nominal parameters are : ambiant T° = 20°, noze T° = 235° , bedT° =75° and first layer thickness 0,2 mm, PETG filament from Prusa,).

Before changing again the PEI sheet, I would like to understand what happens ...

Veröffentlicht : 19/10/2018 2:25 pm
CaptClearLeft
(@captclearleft-2)
Eminent Member
Re: Too strong adhesion PEI sheet with PETG material

PETG is crazy adherent. After cleaning your bed with window cleaner:

1) On a non heated bed, apply thin even glue stick. Just the general school kid variety from the store - nothing fancy. I use this : https://www.target.com/p/elmer-s-174-washable-glue-sticks-disappearing-purple-2ct/-/A-17088980

Glue creates a small enough layer to allow you to remove the print... Interesting right. Works great with Ninja Flex as well.

2) When slicing your print, use a 5-10mm brim. This gives you something to get a hold of to get your spatula under when removing print.

3) Print

4) allow your heat bed to cool completely before removing print.

Good Luck!

Veröffentlicht : 31/10/2018 3:20 am
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
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RE: Too strong adhesion PEI sheet with PETG material

I am having the same problem with the PC sheet.  Any solution for it since you should not use window cleaner?

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Veröffentlicht : 14/07/2019 12:47 pm
Bruce
(@bruce-4)
New Member
RE: Too strong adhesion PEI sheet with PETG material

Have you tried the upside-down Dust-Off (rapid cooling) trick?  I haven't printed with PC but assume it would contract differently than the PEI/heatbed.  

Veröffentlicht : 14/07/2019 5:16 pm
JJ3DPrinter
(@jj3dprinter)
Eminent Member
RE: Too strong adhesion PEI sheet with PETG material

I've printed probably 30 kg of PETG on my Prusa I3 mk2 and is the only thing I print with. I've learned a few tricks that make taking prints off real easy.

When I print I have my heatbed set to 85C. When it finishes, removed the print from the print bed between 60C-70C. If the printed finished and the bed is already cold, preheat the print bed until it gets between 60C-70C for removal.

Buy some Talc powder of some sort and sprinkle just a tiny bit on the bed and wipe it off. One coating is good for usually 3 prints so you don't need to apply it every time. I forgot who recommended it but it works great. This is the stuff that I use. The temperature + talc powder makes a huge difference and the spatula and window scraper I use sometimes but not often... the spatula I do use a bit though.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/GOLD-BOND-Ultimate-Men-s-Essentials-Body-Powder-Refresh-360-Scent-10oz/51176870

A spatula tool that works well

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017XGEDOM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Window Scraper blade to help lift model edge then I slide the spatula under the model. Be careful with the window scraper as it can dig into the PEI sheet, it's a good idea to round corners of blade with a file so its not so sharp.

https://www.amazon.com/Razor-Blade-Scraper-Cooktop-Replaceable/dp/B07HPFGQ2G/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=window+scraper&qid=1566279288&s=industrial&sr=1-5

 

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